Yulia
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i can't believe you guys are saying that about kill bill.... i absolutely love it.
i think it's awsome, both parts are great.
what did you dislike about it? just curious...
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| Bravo-man
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Firstly the movie was predictable. You could almost tell what came next. That’s bad for a movie, it’s next to boring.
Then, there was a lot of unnecessary plain good old violence. The beatings were not original. A lot of limb cutting does not make a movie worth watching. It is not enough to engulf the camera in blood and gore. I would prefer the fight scenes in ‘Minority report’ or ‘Matrix’.
Then the motives were too simple: ‘you murdered my folks so I’ll kill you and you and your folks’ with no wrappings.
Then the bits of humor scattered here and there were hopeless. Not even a quarter of a smile.
Then the movie was a bit racist. Not that I’m the kind of person to shout racism every 5 minutes, but that’s how this movie occurred to me.
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| Yulia
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wow... bravo-man, you really hated it... well, that means we are looking at things differently.
about no twist to it's story, it doesn't always have to be twisted to be good. great revenge - that's a classic one. of course not as sofisticated as alien or minority report, but classic.
violence is there, that's why is it rated r. but it is rather grotesque and exaggerated, it doesn't look so real, don't you think? the most fake blood ever used in movie, just a colored water spurts like a geyzer.
by the way, did you know that the guy who was marital arts advisor for fight scenes in kill bill did the same honors for matrixes?
you are 100% wright, beatings are not original. this movie references to so many old great movies, it makes a mix of hong kong kung fu and japanese movies, asian theme dominates in first volume, as western does in the second. if you have never seen any of those and don't quite get the references, i agree it might seem uninteresting then. there are a lot of little details connecting this movie and many many others. i am not going to go into that here, but if you're interested, i could tell a couple of things about it.
anime part was awesome, as a tribute to the japanese style animation.
soundtrack and camera work are great.
so, well, the lack of humor part, i can't comment on, just because it's a question of difference in a sense of humor.
please tell me, why on earth you think it's a racist movie????? that one i can't even start to understand 
i wonder what you guys think of austin powers? 
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| Bravo-man
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It is a classic indeed. I felt I was watching a western except for the fact that they didn’t ride horses. They tried to make the movie as simple as possible. It was a mistake to make it so direct and easy to digest. But I liked the insertion of the cartoon scene. It was a good idea.
You are surprised about the racism part. The propensity towards this subject was obvious. Wasn’t it racism when the Yakuza guy is awfully angry because the new chief is a half chinese half american? Is this the major reason that usually enrages regular Yakuza members? Or when Uma cuts a woman’s arm(a secon rate villain) or leg or both of them and then throws her into the trunk of car. Guess what, that woman was french. Not to mention the black woman(one of the major villains) wich is just a snack compared to the huge loads of japanese that Uma cuts through. I wonder how the klingons and ferengi were spared from the bashing.
I’m not trying to downgrade the movie by sticking the ‘racism’ label on it but the race subject was all over the movie, at least the first part, the one I saw. It was bluntly expressed and they didn’t try to conceal it. It was a part of its appeal.
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| Yulia
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what are you even talking about???? how's that racism? aganist what race? aganist asian or american or what? are you trying to tell that if asian or african american or else gets killed in the movie you immediately call that racism? i am not sure where you live, but here in usa it's a very strong accusation, and there has to be more that to start using it.
guess what, she kills americans in the second volume. is that racism too?
even "yahoo mom's movie review" points out presence of "very strong women and minority characters"
i think you're misinterpreting things at least. there is no race subject whatsoever in kill bill.
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| Bravo-man
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I'm not saying they should all shake hands and hug and kiss. What I saw is that 'strong minority characters' are bad guys who get beaten. And if they had been my countrymen I would have certainly resented the movie.
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| PsychDr2B
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Stanley Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange :x
Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses :evil:
Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho :shock:
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| Bravo-man
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'Secret window'- from the series that include 'The others' and 'A beautiful mind'. But if you are trained in this kind of movies you will figure out the key early on.
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Troy
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Have you seen ’Van Helsing’? It’s a film where you will find Dracula, Frankenstein and some werewolves. Yes, there is a high density of bad reputation characters wich have little in common. There is also a doctor who gets fired (creating Frankensteins was obviously beyond his certified competence). Read what the magazine ‘The New Yorker’ has to say about the movie:
CREATING MONSTERS
by ANTHONY LANE
“Van Helsing” and “Control Room.”
Issue of 2004-05-24
Posted 2004-05-17
So there you are, trotting along in your horse-drawn carriage in the year 1888. It is a pleasant scene, although you might have chosen not to find your left-hand wheels spinning vainly over the brink of a ravine. The fact that the carriage itself has exploded into flames could also be thought disagreeable. And, while polite society would applaud the presence of a beautiful young woman inside the carriage, eyebrows would be raised at the gentleman accompanying her, who seems to have been bolted and stitched together from portions of other gentlemen. Oh, and there is one other matter: some form of wolverine, as large as a shire horse but rather less placid, has leaped onto the rear of the carriage and is making a concerted effort to join the party.
By the standard of “Van Helsing,” this rates as one of the quieter moments. The film was directed by Stephen Sommers, or, as the final credits amusingly suggest, “written and directed by Stephen Sommers.” What the movie offers is not so much a plot as the visual equivalent of a compilation album: The Very Best of Gothic Horror. A selection of popular ghouls has been rounded up and herded sheepishly into a single time frame. Mary Shelley’s “Frankenstein” was published in 1818, but her poor monster, as if he hadn’t got enough on his plate, is spirited to the other end of the century; the opening sequence finds him strapped to a table in the Transylvanian castle of Count Dracula, while a mob of churls batters through the gates in protest against genetically modified men. We then jump to Paris, a year later, and to the most authentic detail in the whole film: the distant stump of a half-built Eiffel Tower. A misshapen fellow is hanging out at the top of Notre-Dame—not Quasimodo but a swollen Mr. Hyde, if you please, who now looks and sounds like a malevolent Shrek.
What are we supposed to make of this unholy gathering? Well, given that one of the first lines we hear is “It’s alive!,” we can be fairly certain that Sommers wished to pay homage to James Whale, Tod Browning, and other founding fathers of the horror film. On a practical level, this allows the movie’s hero, Gabriel Van Helsing (Hugh Jackman), to arrange his targets within a limited area. He is a slayer of nasties; more surprisingly, he is in the employment of the Catholic Church, which summons him to Rome and instructs him to invade Transylvania, with or without a U.N. mandate. He will be accompanied by a young friar named Carl (David Wenham), who, much as Q likes to brief a skeptical 007, gives Van Helsing a guided tour of the Vatican’s underground weapons facility. Armed with a rapid-fire crossbow and a holy-water cannister, our man heads east, into a stew of evils. There will be bloodsuckers, there will be werewolves, and, most impenetrable of all, there will be bad Romanian accents.
Dracula (Richard Roxburgh) resides in a cloud-piercing fortress that would be even more forbidding were it not so evidently built on a computer screen. He is aided by a trio of flight attendants—friendly female neck-biters who either dress like Barbara Eden in “I Dream of Jeannie” or, during periods of darkness, turn into nude white mice with wings. Considering how much flesh is on display, “Van Helsing” is a remarkably sexless affair; even the cheapest Hammer horror flick, with its quivering polystyrene sets and ketchup-tipped canines, had the wit to linger over the erotic implications of a bared throat, whereas Sommers doesn’t want to know, and the libidos of his teen-age viewers, which might have been fruitfully ruffled by the sight of vampires exchanging fluids with virgins, will be left undisturbed.
Indeed, you wonder what youthful viewers will get from this movie. Any reference to Boris Karloff or Bela Lugosi will sail over their heads, and they will never know the loaded, entrancing silence in which those superior monsters advanced upon their prey. I suspect that they will regard “Van Helsing” as a low-budget trailer for the real business of the moment, which is “Van Helsing” the Xbox game, available now for $49.99. I have not yet had the pleasure of its company, but the promises made by the manufacturer are stirring to behold: “Unlock hidden content when you play through three different difficulty modes.” This has to be an improvement on the movie, which has virtually no content at all, hidden or otherwise, and whose only mode of difficulty arises when Hugh Jackman has to shout to make himself heard above the screech of the flight attendants.
Jackman is a hearty soul, but, unlike Brendan Fraser in “The Mummy,” Sommers’s earlier and zippier tribute to thrills past, he can make no headway against the forces of digital disorder. Then, there is Kate Beckinsale, whose unhappy purpose, here as in “Pearl Harbor,” is to provide what I hesitate to call the love interest. She plays Anna Valerious, whose name would bring intense pleasure to a writer of limericks, and whose attitude toward lycanthropes resembles that of Brigitte Bardot toward stray dogs. Van Helsing: “He’s a werewolf—he’s going to kill people.” Anna: “He can’t help it!” They eventually reach Dracula’s lair by stretching out their hands and passing through a looking glass, a feat borrowed from Cocteau’s “Orphée.” But Cocteau was careful to plant his magic in the realm of ordinary objects (his underworld was run by a committee of men who dressed and spoke like bank managers), whereas “Van Helsing” uproots its characters from anything—a place, a turn of phrase, a strain of feeling—that we would recognize from our own lives, feverishly piling legend upon legend, and beast upon beast, without realizing that, far from adding to the strangeness, they will cancel one another out. The horror flick, at its height, was a lyrical caressing of our fears; by the end of this nonsense, you fear for the well-being of the genre. “It’s dead!”
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| Swaroop
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home alone 1, 2 , 3
top gun
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| Bravo-man
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Has anybody seen 'Fahrenheit 9/11' ?
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| solo
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'Before Sunrise'
'Gross Anatomy'
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| Morphine
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The butterfly effect
minority report
kill bill 1 & 2(quite grapthic though)
shrek 2
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| mash
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In the name of the father
Life is beautiful
Beautiful mind
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| Gal.Anonim
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Reservoir Dogs
Girl With a Pearl Earring
Fight Club
Blow
The Butterfly Effect
The Last Samurai
Memento
A Knight’s Tale
Mystic River
Magnolia
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| bhallaji
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"THE GAME"
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| asmi
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wow huge list :roll: , can anyone name 5 movies for me..which r worth watching..preference : should be comedy or adventure
8) I like lord of the rings ( all 3 parts) ,terminator ,beautiful mind ,Lizzy maguiar ,police academy ,finding nemo etc
haven't seen Abeauty...what is it about ?
:idea: donot suggest romantic movies..yek...i still got time to find romance in life ..lattars
Thanks
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| asmi
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just watched an old movie ..Bad medicine..it was good.
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| prdoctor
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the forgotten is a very good movie
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| noni
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catch me if u can :lol:
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| asmi
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is it a movie :roll:
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| edualyegue
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There is a huge list to mention, but I always like to whatch:
- The godfather.
- The silence of the lambs.
- Sixth sense.
- Scent of a woman.
- Forrest Gump.
- Devil's advocate.
- A beautiful mind.
- Good will hunting.
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| luckiest
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SEX AND THE CITY
:IT motivate the hunger of working in U.S.A
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| sadaf
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Artificial Intelligence.
What lies beneath.
E.R (its not a film but series but its my fav)
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