hgheith Forum Elite

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| | 06/21/04 - 08:56 PM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
A point mutation in what base position of a codon would least affect the Amino Acid expressed? A protein has 100 amino acids, a mutation occurs. The first 15 are ok, 16-26 are incorrect, and the rest are missing, what mutation and where?
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| mash Forum Fanatic
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| | 06/21/04 - 09:22 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
1 3rd base 2 mis sense mutaion(46th base)
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| Sakaki- Forum Senior
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| | 06/21/04 - 09:22 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
A point mutation at the third position of the codon (at the 3' end) would least affect the amino acid expressed. I believe that that is a missense mutation at position 46, as it results in premature termination of translation. Edit: Heh--same time, mash. 
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| rida Forum Guru
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| | 06/21/04 - 09:50 PM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
Can you guys explain how you got 46??
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| mash Forum Fanatic
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| | 06/21/04 - 11:17 PM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
bcoz 1st 15 aa r normal=>15*3=45 bases wud be normal 16th -26th aa r abnormal so, mutation may be in 46th or 47th base(3rd base wont make any diff)
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| rida Forum Guru
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| | 06/21/04 - 11:19 PM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
THANX A MILLION MASH!!!!
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| hgheith Forum Elite

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| | 06/22/04 - 02:36 PM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
3rd position b/c of redundancy it would be a frameshift mutation in the 16th amino acid (or I guess the same as 46th base) Frameshift :arrow: deletion or addition of a base, the effect on the protein :arrow: usually nonfunctional; often shorter than normal.
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| mash Forum Fanatic
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| | 06/22/04 - 05:06 PM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
d'oh! u r right it shud be frameshift mutation coz missense wud lead to change in 1aa at 16th position(if base change is at 46th)....
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| Sakaki- Forum Senior
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| | 06/23/04 - 11:07 AM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
So if a frameshift mutation leads to a termination codon somewhere later in the protein (as in not the first codon in which the mutation occurs), is it still considered a frameshift mutation and not a missense mutation?
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| hgheith Forum Elite

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| | 06/23/04 - 03:51 PM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
A missense mutation only specifies a different aa, not a stop codon (that would be a nonsense mutation) so it does not affect the length, only the function. With a missense mutation there is only a change in the amino acid with the base that was mutated, but the rest would be the same as in Sickel cell: normally it's GAG at the 6th position in the betaglobin gene which codes for glutamic acid, with the disease it's mutated to GTG which now specifies valine, but the rest of the codons remain the same. hope that helps. It does make sense that a frameshift mutation would cause a nonsense mutation down the line, so I guess that is possible :roll:
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| Sakaki- Forum Senior
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| | 06/23/04 - 04:27 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
Thanks, hgheith, for the clarification.
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