rida Forum Guru
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| | 06/21/04 - 01:23 AM  
 
   
 
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I dont know how true this is but according to kaplan, when american medical students take step 1, it is suppose to be easier then the whole year round and they say these students usually take it in june, does anyone know how true that is, i mean i dont think i believe it but it did come from kaplan. Also do american medical students get to choose whent hey will take the step 1 or do all take it on certain dates???
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| docarjun Forum Elite
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| | 06/21/04 - 02:00 AM  
 
   
 
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Hi Rida! I dont know any thing regarding all this.But i think ,this difference3 wont be there.Or they wont allow the foreign medical graduates like me who are giving the USMLE from US to appear for the exam during some specific period.I think there are lots of people like me in USA.I wanted to give the exam in june and there was no problem for me to get the date in june.Only because i entered in the all USMLE matter very late..that is march end,so i thought time is not enough for me. I think US medical students must be giving the exam during june as they give step one during their second or third year(i am not sure),and they must be getting some summer break,so might be easy to do it in june after a few weeks studies. I understand ur concern.But dont think about all this things. Just do your best,if u r the best nobody in the world can prevent you from what you want,right?
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| rida Forum Guru
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| | 06/21/04 - 08:40 PM  
 
   
 
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Absolutely rite docarjun, i agree with you, it was just something i wanted to bring up to this forum in case someone had heard it, because i know the usmle is not gonna make exceptions for anyone, its an exam, you study for it, and you take it, and leave the rest to God. Thanx for answering!!!
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| Quinn Forum Elite
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| | 06/23/04 - 06:40 PM  
 
   
 
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Hi, I talked with someone from USMLE and they told me that each exam is individual. Nobody is compared directly with anyone else. There is a set standard they have set based on years of examination which determines your score. So, there is no real advantage to taking it in June as opposed to any other time when the trying to get a good score. I think the most important is to take when you feel you are at your best.
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| retroviridae Forum Guru
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| | 06/26/04 - 09:53 PM  
 
   
 
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I keep wondering how US students do so well on this test. I teach US medical students in pediatrics, and let me tell you that I am not impressed (I am at a top 10 US med school). They are very bright and I feel quite dedicated to medicine (more so than my Indian classmates who would bunk clinics to study or sleep! ), but not the fearsome juggernaught I had expected. But remember that their curriculum is tailor-made to the USMLE, by the same teachers who will write the USMLE questions. And they take the test immediately after finishing the subjects in med school, not years later like for most IMGs. So I don't think they get an easier test, nor do I think they are any smarter than any IMG. But hey, in India, I spent 1.5 years learning anatomy in and out (not that I remember it now), I was taught little to no genetics and no molecular biology. My immunology was quite basic, and we didn't focus on newer drugs in pharmac even though they were in the books. US students do all this. I was teaching some US student about Bernard-Soulier syndrome, which I had never heard of until I came to the US, and they knew about it, because it was an example taught in class of a functional platelet defect. Before studying for this test, I don't think I had ever really known any functional platelet disorders. Anyway, my thoughts .....
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| mash Forum Fanatic
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| | 06/26/04 - 10:12 PM  
 
   
 
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retroviridae, i completely agree with u. b4 i read ur post i thought i was the only one who hadnt read some disorders or genetics and immuno in detalis....i think the difference is (as u ve told) dat US students prepare on the lines of usmle and dat is the reason why they perform so well.. The reason why my immuno, bs and mol biology r so screwed up is dat i never studied these subjects in detail. anyways, thanx fr ur input...
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| rida Forum Guru
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| | 06/26/04 - 10:21 PM  
 
   
 
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I agree with you guys, because my cousin who graduated from a US medical school was shocked that i am taking more than 6 weeks to take this exam, i kept telling her that i am not a US med school student so its harder for us, but they dont understand. Neways, basically to me it shows that most of us have to work extra hard and hopefully that hardwork will pay off. Good luck guys!
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| nuprin Forum Elite
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| | 06/27/04 - 02:57 AM  
 
   
 
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i bet the fact that there are about 5-10 beh sci qs on every block makes a difference, too. a lot of it seems like common sense to me, but i could see how it could be culturally "biased." isn't it true that imgs used to have to take a longer, harder test?
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| retroviridae Forum Guru
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| | 07/01/04 - 07:04 PM  
 
   
 
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OK, another note on this. To every doc who studied from Bailey and Love and Davidson's or Kumar and Clarke. I am starting to study for step II from Kaplan notes, and let me just say they are extremely basic. People say they are enough, and blue prints are too much. Well, these books are so basic, it's almost a joke. And it's true. The Pedi students I teach all read only blue prints. They would all fail in India if they had to take one of my clinical exams. Of course, they would probably read harder books if they had to. Anway, my point is don't knock yourself out over step I. In reality, it has very little clinical basis. They try to make it clinically relevant, but it's not. Remember you are a good doctor, and I bet most of the IMGs know more about medicine than the natives. I don't mean this as a slight to the US students, but rather as a rebuttle to the US system's systematic discrimination against IMGs.
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