bluestar
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I don't understand this, anybody could explain it to me pls?
Defense mechanisms are used by ego automatically and UNCONSIOUSLY to keep conflict out of consciousness. If so, then the subject should not be aware of these mechanisms when they are actually using them. Then why the defense mechanism "suppresion " is defined as "voluntarily" withholding of an idea or feeling from conscious awareness? if it's "voluntarily" then it must not be "unconsiously". Doesn't this conflict with the definition of defense mechanism?? Also, since we've learnt this as we studying, we already know these defense mechanisms, is it less likely that we won't use ego defenses ourselves anymore?
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| doc*99
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hi,
bluestar,
u need to understand the topography of mind, to understand defence mechanisms. mind is made of 3 parts , 1) id 2) ego 3)superego
of these id is the primitive one composed of self gratifying urges and drives
ego is the bridge between the id and superego
superego is the rightous , altruistic part (always the mature & responsible voice in your head.)
conflicts are always between id & superego (these 2 always try to quighten the other ) eg : just after an hour of study your id, being nothing more than an urge says u r tired, but the other part (superego) refuses to give in to id, and displays a thought of u getting 80 -90 in usmle and wants u to continue , this is where ego enters the feild and says , ok quite, i will finish the chapter before the break.
how many times have this happened to u, how many times did u become cousciously aware of the conflict thats happening, how manytimes did u reason it out , that finishing the chapter is a defence mechanism (displacement) from the actual conflict within.
coming to the 2nd part of u r question, i.e how can suppresion be a voluntary defence mechanism, let me give a e.g. again
u r in the exam , after 3-6 mnths of hard work started answering,
questions 1-----10 boom your not sure , u r id asks u to run away, u r superego wants u to hide,
ENTER'S U R EGO FORCIBLY AND COUSCIOUSLY SUPPRESING run-away and hide away feelings, u some how sit thru the rest of it, with 1st 10 questions being wrong u still ace the test.
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| usmleasr
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good question ...and good explanation...
i also think what doc says is correct..becos defense mechanisms if u see most of the times we know consciously.. ...like say displacement...if we r angey with some one ..we hit other ..but we know after some time..that what we have done...
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| tess
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thanks both for good question and answer.
I have always been confused with this "consciously" or "nonconsciously" for the defense mechanism. I really like the examples given by doc*99, however, they seem all conscious process to me. :wink: that's where I confuse.
And for the first example, I dont' understand why doc*99 saying the defense mechanism is displacement. I would say the mechansim is "blocking", and the for second example, i would say te mechanism is "suppresion". Or both are "suppression"? please correct me if I am wrong. thanks a lot.
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| bluestar
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thank you guys for replying my question. I have the same question as tess that all the process doc99 discribed seems 100% "CONSCIOUS" while we don't see the UNCONSCIOUS part of it. also in your 1st example, why it's not suppression?
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