sachida
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I am considering preparing a petition appealing ECFMG for better services.
I think services in area of scanning the document and providing ECFMG certificate need major improvement.
When I pay upto $25 per program, i expect much better service. 2 weeks to just scan document is unacceptable atleast to me.
additionally, many program require ECFMG certification at the time of application or intreview. ECFMG is failing to let the user know if the medical school verification had failed or if there were issues with it. This results into significant delay and confusion. Ofcourse, heartache and headache to already taxed minds.
I think we should- as customer of ERAS and ECFMG, let them know that we expect better.
I was thinking of writing a simple petition and put it out for people to sign it.
What other user feel about it?
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| coolmavs
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Count me in.....
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| chicagodoc79
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Count me in...this is ridiculous...i overnighted my docs over 2 weeks ago and they still aren't scanned, and that is what is keeping me from applying...
They have been scanning docs received on August 25th since the beginning of the week...
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| cherryho
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Even though they've served me pretty well so far, I still agree that they should be more efficient. 
I had a bad experience with USCIS for my Green Card application (worst service ever in the country!!) so I seem to be more tolerant with ECFMG.
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| greenriver
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Please count me in!
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| foxy
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Please count me in too. I am very pissed with ECFMG,they are very incompetent in my regard so far.
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And me... Knowing that hot times are coming and doing a little to satisfy requirements is inexcusable...
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| coolmavs
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My UPS LOR was received on the 5th morning at the front desk and to date, ECFMG is not even showing the document as received!!!!!!!!!!
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| sachida
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I will draft an online petition. I will post a draft first in the forum to make sure it is agreeable and I am not missing something. Once approved, I will start an online petition. We would have to promote it in different forums and hope that we have sufficient traction to present it to ECFMG.
I have had bad experiences with other systems. And now that I have been in USA for some years, I am atleast encouraged by the fact that if you complain, some one will listen and hopefully will do something about it. So I want to let them know how I feel and it seems many feel the same way.
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| karned2
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I disagree, There is no one else to blaim except urself. You could have done the exams earlier, send letters in advance.... then u r sure they would be there on time.
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| coolmavs
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karned2 wrote:
I disagree, There is no one else to blaim except urself. You could have done the exams earlier, send letters in advance.... then u r sure they would be there on time.
I agree, we should have completed the "EXAMS" earlier and send our "LORs" earlier so that they could get uploaded earlier!!!!!!!!! Thank you for the suggestion! Will be sure to remember that in the future.
Edited by coolmavs on 09/10/08 - 01:38 PM
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| sachida
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Karned, "exams" can be done earlier but what about LORs, I dont write it myself, I have to ask someone to write for me. And beleive me, many professors have tendency to delay it untill you push it upon them. And then there is US postal system, increasingly loosing mail. And on the top after paying all these money it takes 2 weeks to scan the document? what is this us currency that they have to run it thorugh some blue color light and establish authenticity? OR they dont staff enough to take care of increasing workload around sept 1st. It happens every year.
and what about credential varification? there is no secret to it? why not update the candidate in real time...explain what issues are unresolved or impeding the process. I had spent a full year playing the cat and mouse game. Finally, I established my own fedex account, convinced ecfmg rep to use it and send the document to my school.
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| cherryho
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It's kind of like telling poor people "should've saved more money before, then you wouldn't have to starve". Some people are just not able to finish the exams or send the documents in time. They are the ones who really need ECFMG's help.
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| akm
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Just don't piss them off 
They may give even worse service to those who sign the petition......you never know with the Ecfmg: they must be thinking they are working really hard and now instead of getting any recognition they get a bunch of people complaining and writing up petitions...
I agree with you guys, but tread cautiously as they are the ones in total control.
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| cherryho
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reminds me of USCIS....can't piss off people who have power! 
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| karned2
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sachida, i fully understand what u r saying. I blame myself for a lot of things i should have done earlier, mainly my exams, and now i am waiting to do some and results for others. But i cant blame ecfmg for my laziness. As for LOR, i also understand how frustrating it is to run after prof here and ask them for the recomm. time after time. it felt more like begging sometimes, but was able at the end to get all my recom to ecfmg by mid august so early september they were scanned and in ERAS.
If u guys go ahead and do the petitiion, just be precise on the things u r asking for, and not ask for everything. I wouldnt say anything about the recomm. Maybe about the certification, about the stupid new software that was introduced at the wrong time when it should be done maybe in feb/march etc... when no one is doing the exam.
I dont know what else to say. I think i am the lazy one here, not ecfmg.
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| drnaik
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count me in.....
I know I am late..... but why are the ECFMG people adding fuel to fire?????
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| drnaik
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Imagine.. that there is an EPIDEMIC ... The only hospital in the vicinity has a 100 doctors who are working throughout the year sincerely. But during this crisis time.... wouldnt every patient/resident just wish that ther is one ... jsut one doctor who thought about treating him rather than spend the weekend watching TV... or go fishing????
If I am that doctor... and the ECFMG is the patient.... would they think I have a logic when I say ...... "I am off duty????"
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| sachida
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Interesting analogy dr. naik.
For those who fear ECFMG, please dont. We are not trying to challenge them for duel.
We are requesting them to hear our concern.
petition is not a law suit. It is a statement from bunch of people asking reform.
For those who are giving analogy to USCIS, I have been though hell with them. But there is a major difference, they are making some one citizen compared to ECMFG is scanning the document or varyfying the information provided.
I will get to draft tonight.
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