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| | 04/27/04 - 07:22 AM  
 
|   #3 |
Metanephrines is more specific test, but VMA would be right too.
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 04/27/04 - 08:17 AM  
 
|   #4 |
1)Epi and NOR :arrow: metanephrine and VMAvia MAO and COMT respectively 2)neural crest origin(adrenal medulla) 3)assoc. with MEN IIa and IIb and von Hippel Lindau 4)sx-HTN,drenching sweat, palpitations,HA.
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| crista Forum Guru
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| | 04/27/04 - 10:10 AM  
 
|   #5 |
treatment with which drugs?
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| Idiopathic Forum Guru
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| | 04/27/04 - 10:52 AM  
 
|   #6 |
phentolamine/phenoxybenzamine, but must remove surgically. the key is: NEVER give a B-blocker to a pheo Px, you will send them further into hypertensive crisis (alpha is unopposed).
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| Bela Forum Guru

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| | 04/27/04 - 06:29 PM  
 
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Another pneumonic: Rule of 10s 10% malignant 10% bilateral 10%exta-adrenal 10% calcify 10% kids 10% famililal Six Ps Pressure (HTN) Palpitations Pain (headache) Perspiration Pallor Penoxybenzamine/Phentylamine Also, I just read somewhere that this is the only condition in which a frozen section wouldn't help at all b/c a malignant looking specimen can be benign and vice versa. Only upon metastasis would the physician be able to tell something...that's why pheo is usually considered malignant. p.s. idiopathic, can you please elaborate a bit on the effect of the b blockers and a blockers in these pts. thnx
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| mjl1717 Forum Hero

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| | 04/27/04 - 06:44 PM  
 
|   #8 |
I think what Idiopathic is saying is that beta blockade to control tachycardia is added only AFTER alpha blockade has been instituted to prevent unopposed alpha stimulation [Endocrine Secrets by Michael McDermott M.D.]
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| Idiopathic Forum Guru
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| | 04/28/04 - 04:02 AM  
 
|   #9 |
Here is the prob: Px comes in with moderate to serious hypertension and tachycardia, so what do you do? Start him/her on a B-blocker to control symptoms. Then in three weeks, when they come back to you in hypertensive crisis, you realize you never considered a pheo., an dthe adrenergics are all out of balance. Obviously if you know there is a pheo you would not manage this way.
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| almina Forum Senior
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| | 04/28/04 - 09:52 PM  
 
|   #10 |
Also a phentalamine test and a glucagon test.
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