GriMMjoW
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i ve got a few questions on the residency. hope some1 can answer them
this is about visa. i will not be taking step 3 by this year. so i m ecfmg certified and i think only can get a J1 visa. my questions are this
1. if i get into the so called ordinary IM community hospital programs. wat are my chances of securing a fellowship. i love statistical answers
so lets say total 100 IM residents. 70 comm and 30 uni.
and how many fellowship slots are there to compete for these 100 ppl upon grad
and wat are the chances roughly?
and wat more if u are an IMG in a community hosp?
2. if i get a J1 visa and cant convert it, so i m sent back home to practise for 2 yrs
will this hamper my chances for a fellowship 2 yrs later?
3. wat are the chances of converting a J1 to a H1 at the end of the program?
4. and are they obliged to give ffellowship eventually or they can deny u a spot indefinetly?
5. if i dun get a fellowship... can i go to lets say canada, aussie or NZ to do fellow there?
sorry for the wierd questions. but to me it seems like the USMLE exams are the easiest part of preparing.. the rest is so tiring.. HAHA 
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| bbb
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1. No one can answer this - it's going to depend on the interviewing skills of each candidate. But, since you will be on a J1 visa, that makes it easier - most fellowships will not accept an H1 visa.
2. You know the answer to this question.
3. You will need to find an employer that will sponsor your greencard and H1 visa. It CAN be done.
4. No one is obliged to give you a fellowship. It's not denying you a spot - it goes back to you and your interview skills.
5. No answer, sorry.
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| GriMMjoW
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thanks BBB. no wonder everyone wants a H1 visa.
I m new to this match thing, and have no idea and am ill prepared, any help is greatly appreciated.
looks like if i match, since i m on j1 , i d be packing my bags to practise my trade elsewhere after 3 yrs... wierd, since the state is funding me... can t make sense of it.
well thats life.. 
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| hitesh
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GriMMjoW You need to relax.. There are plenty of J1 waiver jobs out there.. You dont have to go back.. besides, getting a fellowship on a J1 visa is a bit easier than on an h1B.. And i remember bbb saying this once in a thread that in her 'x' yrs of experience she's seen only a handful of residents (on a J1 visa) having to go back..
moreover, why do you think you'll get only a J1 visa? why cant you take step 3 early next year..
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| paheli
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bbb, I have a qn here too. If there's a 2yr homeland residence requirement after 3 yrs of residency, am right in assuming that the same will hold true after a fellowship on J1?
If yes to the above, are fellows eligible for waiver jobs?
Thanks for your wisdom.
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| will try my best
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Yes PAheli someone I know is doing a waiver after fellowship.
This is with reference to bbb's answer in qs 3. BBB please correct me if I am wrong.One thing I always thought and am pretty sure of is that once on J1 you have to do either waiver or 2 year home country in order to convert to H1.Even if you get married to a citizen but you take J1,the above rule applies.
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| GriMMjoW
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well, now i get the point
so it s not so bad to have a J1 visa, but a H1 is better i suppose
well... i never tot of applying to step 3 in jan, maybe i should
see unlike most of u, i ve got a compulsory service with the gov for 4 yrs before full registration in my home country. only done 2 so far, so i can risk quitting for anything, cuz if i dun get the match, then i ll be left jobless!
hmm... seems like i gotta prepare for another exam
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| hitesh
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Paheli : Yes, the HRR applies once you finish a fellowship on a J1 visa. Yes, you can find a waiver job after a fellowship
will try my best: you're right. Marriage to a citizen does not waive the 2 yr HRR.
GriMMjoW : cant you keep the job and participate in the match and quit only if you match?
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| GriMMjoW
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yup i can... but i m not sure my gov will allow me a month off for inteviews and step 3 in the US see...
maybe i ll schedule my step 3 right in the smack of the iv or just at the end of the iv season.. well see how it goes
btw, thanks a lot guys
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| bbb
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GriMMjoW wrote:thanks BBB. no wonder everyone wants a H1 visa. I m new to this match thing, and have no idea and am ill prepared, any help is greatly appreciated. looks like if i match, since i m on j1 , i d be packing my bags to practise my trade elsewhere after 3 yrs... wierd, since the state is funding me... can t make sense of it. well thats life..
NO!!!!
More of my residents had to leave because they couldn't find employers that would take their H1b visas - and the paperwork processing was awful. The J visa has many more employment opportunities post residency and fellowship.
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paheli wrote:
bbb, I have a qn here too. If there's a 2yr homeland residence requirement after 3 yrs of residency, am right in assuming that the same will hold true after a fellowship on J1?
If yes to the above, are fellows eligible for waiver jobs?
Thanks for your wisdom.
Yes to both. Did you get my email?
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will try my best wrote:
BBB please correct me if I am wrong.One thing I always thought and am pretty sure of is that once on J1 you have to do either waiver or 2 year home country in order to convert to H1.Even if you get married to a citizen but you take J1,the above rule applies.
Even if you get married to a citizen, the J1 visa takes precedence. You can do a waiver - and they aren't always in the middle of no-where-ville.
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| paheli
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bbb wrote:paheli wrote:
bbb, I have a qn here too. If there's a 2yr homeland residence requirement after 3 yrs of residency, am right in assuming that the same will hold true after a fellowship on J1?
If yes to the above, are fellows eligible for waiver jobs?
Thanks for your wisdom.
Yes to both. Did you get my email?
Thanks for the answers, bbb.
Yes, I did,  and I replied too.
I wish you a great day!
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| GriMMjoW
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well thanks BBB,since i had really good scores in step 1 and 2, dun wanna spoil my chances with a normal step 3. guess i ll schedule for step 3 after the match.
sounds like a good plan eh.
and seems lke i ll just stick to J1.
watever happens happens cuz i m not going to the US to make money or green card. i am an academician at heart,so anywhere with good research oppurtunities, excel in my field, i m there!
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