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Can someone explain why thiazides would be helpful in nephrogenic DI? The result of nephrogenic DI is excessive water loss as dilute urine. The net effect of thiazides is increased diuresis. Shouldnt thiazides potentiate DI?

  #2

It's a paradoxical effect. That's all I've read.


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  #3

coz acutely when diuretics r given given they worsen the situatuoin (that is the diabetes inspidus pt is already losing alot of water and u r giving them diuretics) so u give them weak diuretic like thiazides and thaizide saves water when given chronically bcoz when u force kidney 2 lose a Na+ chronically so dist convulated tubule and collecting duct try to absorb more Na+ even at the expense of K+ and H+ so all the watet which is made in diluting loop when comes distally gets absorbed by the DCT and CD and u dont need ADH to work on its recoptors(which as u know are resistant in the case of DI).


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guys i need feed back plz i searched alot on this ................ applause????grin


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  #5

Simply - Thiazides act on the DCT to lose Na and water thus forcing the PCT to absorb more Na and water. Why wouldn't that occur in the absence of NDI, I don't know.


  #6

DR_K,

DCT and CD definitely needs ADH to absorb water. In the absence of ADH, or in resistance to ADH, DCT and CD are totally impermeable to water.

So the loss of Na and water due to Thiazides causes contraction of ECF volume thus increasing the Starling forces at the PCT to absorb more water.








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