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Miradautas Vras
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Btw anyone noticed the recent reopening of website www.svin.org ? Interventional neurology gradually going to neurologists or what!
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hey..sorry for the delayed reply, my creds are 98/99/pass...2 months usce...recent grad..i dont know what my chances are...
I wanted to know if i have mentioned on the cover sheet that my lor's are to be assigned to neuro and prelim im, can i now use them for categorical im?....i have already sent them to eras...am i in big trouble...no backup??
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| protdoc
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hi i am also applying to nuero this time ... stp 1 98, ck on aug 7 and cs result pending on 6th aug...
Edited by protdoc on 07/31/08 - 04:38 AM
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| ganesha123
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hey guys.. i am back..was out for a much needed vacation and now am all raring to go for the match..!!! 
@niltan.. i donno much about path..but i think its a pretty decent back up. do you have any related expereince coz that counts a lot i think. all the best..!!
hey Miradautas Vras and protodoc.. welcome to the thread... excellent link you posted..!!! all the best and keep the thread alive..
hey pm1984 dont worry..why dont you email eras/ecfmg. they will give you a definite answer .as far as i know, i think you can still assign it to categorical medicine.all the best and let us know what you hear from eras...
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| bax
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hi
can a anybody make me understane wht is the categorical neuro? and advanced neuro?
awaiting for reply.
bax
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| niltan
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ganesha ...... how truly does NBME 1 predict the CK exam score bcos i made a really low score recently and don't think am ready for the exam yet!
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normally NBME tests are almost predicitve of the scores..(i could corroborate on both steps) ,but it needs to be taken in the right environment with no disturbance and when we take tests at home we tend to be a lil too relaxed... but i even know a couple of friends who took the test even with low nbme score and yet did well and vice versa....
so it fact i think we should use nbme more in evaluating out strength and weakness so we can concentrate on the finer points in the studies.
if u think u could cover those in the time available, & go for the test.
dont let one nbme score scare you so bad, especially now that we are on a deadline....
personally i had taken the test 15 to 20 days before the exam ..... so next 15 days i concentratd on the topics.. and went for the test...c if u can do that..anybody can have a bad day... only you can evaluate ur self best on that...
all the best..!!!!
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| ganesha123
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@ bax
A. There are three main types of programs: Preliminary, Categorical, and Advanced Residency Programs. The main difference between them are the number of years of training, and when each begins. Preliminary programs are the intern year only. So they last for one year. These include preliminary surgery, preliminary medicine and transitional year programs. They are also referred to as PGY-1 programs. Why do these preliminary programs exist? They are related to Advanced programs, see below.Advanced programs are specialty programs like anesthesiology, dermatology, and urology (plus others). These programs begin in the PGY-2 year (a whole year after you graduate) and do not include the intern year (PGY-1). These advanced programs then will require you to apply to and rank preliminary programs in addition to the advanced program. So if you match into an Advanced program, you will first complete a preliminary program (that first year after medical school) and then enter the advanced program in your PGY-2 year. If you are applying to and ranking advanced programs, you will also need to apply to and rank preliminary and/or transitional year programs.Categorical programs include the intern year and advanced training and do not require you to apply to a separate intern year. So all your years of training are included.Some programs will offer both advanced and categorical positions, so pay attention when you are applying and ranking programs to make sure you have an intern year (preliminary year)
got this online.. hope this helps.. i think eras and nrmp sites can give more info on this too...
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| bax
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@ ganesha123
thank u very much for ur explanation..i was very much confused regarding all these stuff.
so u mean if program offers categorical position then i dont need to apply for prelim position in same program, right?
if program is offering advanced position then we have to apply separately for prelim, right? just to make sure tht i understand correctly...
while i was searching for program criteria some program mention tht their program has close coordination with IM, so if candidate matches for neuro they will make sure tht candidate IM people provide prelim position to candidate. so such kind of program should be considered as categorical, rigth? and some mention tht applicants should apply separately for prelim so these r advanced program, right?
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yeah dats how i understood it too.... if some one else who reads it and thinks we are wrong kindly comment..!!!!
but i am almost sure thats it...and thats how i am gonna approach it too....
all the best bax..
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| bax
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thanx ganesha123...and same to u too...
may GOD BLESS us this time too.
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http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/69392/
hey bax..chek out the above thread answering the same question...
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| Miradautas Vras
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Btw Ganesha and others, one query for ya all. Is it possible to apply for both prelim and cat IM spots at a space where you apply for advanced neuro position? I know I sound like a reprobate asking this, but I was confused as to what to do.
Say for example you apply to uni A to an advanced [ PGY2] neuro position and you apply to the IM program at the same uni for cat position , what then? can you ask for a prelim spot if you matched pgy 2 neuro at that place?
Or say you applied to uni B for Categorical neuro position [ Prelim +neuro] , is it advisable to apply for cat IM at the same uni?
I know someone who has been through neuro match is better informed to guide us regarding this , but let's try to clear each others' confusion the best way we can.
Tell me if hypothetical questions above don't make sense, I'll try to re-frame them. Spread the knowledge!
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@ ganesha123
good discussion there.
@ Miradautas Vras
i think applying in same program for IM and Neuro may cause embarassing situation.
dont know much abt it. waiting for seniors input.
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i put up the same question before..but did not get much input before.... 
so now i am prioritising programs and applying separately for categorical and prelim IM needed for neuro.. couple of places where both med and neuro programs are really good.. i might just take the risk and apply to both...
i REALLY hope some seniors could give us input on this matter.....
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Cannot find the post where i read it.......in a nut-shell...........most PDs are aware that IMGs apply for multiple specialities not due to their in-ability to choose a particular branch but due to the insecurities of not getting matched if applying only to one speciality. A faculty at the neuro dept were I work once told me ....... the match will be easy for you once you understand that the AMGs get 1st preference ...... you will be competing with the IMGs and not AMGs (leftovers to be precise). This adds to the insecurities. People get high-ranked to 2 specilities at one institute ..... depends primarily how you are able to sell yourself at both the places. Personally I am not getting bogged down by it and will apply to neuro and patho at the same institute if both programs look good to me...........what do you guys think about it!!
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i totally agree with you... and guess what..thats what i am going to do....any case we are fighting for leftovers..so why take a chance..!??!! apply to what ever you want to....
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| Miradautas Vras
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Same here. Still we need to take care that majoe conflicts don't happen. for eg if you apply to Surg and Neuro at same place, probably no one is gonna notice, but say IM and Neuro?? may be. But since Most of neuro progs are Uni programs and IM chances of IMGs are less in most of those places, I gather major conflicts can be avoided.
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Guess what ..... I wrote to the Patho PD with my brief stats at the university where I work . The PD encouraged me to attend their department conferences so that I get to meet their faculty and residents at the same time the PD has also scheduled for me to meet the Dept Chair to discuss my career plans! I am looking forward for the meeting and would want some advise from you guys as to how to approach this meeting. Is that a good sign or am I thinking too-much into to it?
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| ganesha123
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it is an awesome sign..!!!! its a rare opportunity and i am sure they saw immense potential in you hence the invitation.... go for it and make the best of it..!!!
all the best niltan..!!!
as for tips.. all i can say is..
be yourself...
introduce yourself to everyone and express interest in the program...
dont under or oversell yourself...
show your knowledge only when asked or when open questions are posted.. speaking out of turn or showing off are consid ered turn offs...
try and get along well with the residents... shows you to be a team player..
i recently i had a similar opportunity and this is what worked for me....
hope it helps you too niltan..
All the best..
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