oldSipDoc
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Hi all,
I am IMG, 1994 Grad, attempted step1 in 1994 without any preparation and failed . Moved to USA in 1995, attempted step2 in 1996 with two weeks preparation and failed. Took a job in Bio-tech company, 10 years later US citizen, and working as mid-level manager with good salary . My questions:
1. After such a long time, is it still possible to get into medicine, assuming I retake tests and pass them in first attempt?
2. Do my old attempts still count?
3. Does my experience in Bio-tech worth anything?
Thanks in advance!
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| oldSipDoc
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hello!! ??
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| arlete
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It's a tough call. Maybe you have a chance in a not-so-popular program, in a not-so-popular city, maybe face some bad weather or be in a more deserted state. Being an old IMG, not practicing Medicine for so long will make most of the PDs skeptical regarding your capability to be a good clinician.
Your attempts will be reported, for sure.
I have no idea if your experience will count, but being a citizen helps.
If you pass in the first attempts with good scores (90+), get some USCE and good LORs, you may be able to go back. But think about everything: the cost of this endeavour with not so guaranteed return, how happy you are with your job, how greater the liability of being a doctor is compared to what you do now, and if you are willing to work 80 hours a week for at least 3 years, again. If after thinking about it, you still want to go for it, good luck!!!
I'll be rooting for you. 
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| SILVER
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1. Yes, a lot is possible if you're willing to work hard for it and really really want to do it, and do your best to get good scores (and it does require considerable studying by the way). check out this forum in detail and you'll find lots of old graduates who are giving the exam and getting residencies.
2. No. USMLE scores remain valid for upto 7 yrs. from the time taken. in this time you have to apply for a residency with those scores. there's more info. on this at ECFMG website
3. Yes it can help your CV...all depends on the program looking at your resume.
GL
Edited by silver on 06/08/08 - 10:38 AM
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| GOGETA
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After 7 years your attempts are erase from the NBME website.
I think 
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| arlete
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I hope they are, I heard they are counted as attempts forever, now I think it's worth looking for the information in the ECFMG site to be sure. Let us know the answer, please.
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guys i don't know about attempts and if they keep track of them.
i was told by ECFMG that the passing scores are valid for 7 yrs. and these rules can change....they're known for changing things every year they put out their booklet, that's why i said it's better to go to their website and get the updated info.
Edited by silver on 06/10/08 - 04:58 AM
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| ladydocz
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NO the attempts dont get erased ever.Sorry
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| Justice
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ladydocz wrote:
NO the attempts dont get erased ever.Sorry
Totally agree... Scores are valid for 7 years until all 3 steps are taken, BUT
the official USMLE transcript contains info on ALL your attempts and scores regardless the time the test was taken... This is the reason why some people decide not to release the transcript during match application... Otherwise, it may hurt...
Edited by Justice on 06/09/08 - 11:09 AM
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| oldSipDoc
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Thank you to all those who replied to my query. I guess I have to think really hard on this one.
For question number two, I was mostly interested in knowing if the attempts will be given any weight after such a long time of absence, and not necessarily if they appear on a score report. From all the answers here I guess the answer is that they may not carry any weight if the validity of score itself is limited to seven years.
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| GOGETA
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Dude sometime that I learn from a GI buddy of mine about interview is this:
Be sincere about your answer.
You have experience in that job and you have a manager position, and sure they will ask why wait so long. Just to be honest and make it as + it could be.
When I say hones keep it in the professional level dont do any gogeta forum stuff
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| marshal
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After seven years,you have a clean board;the previous scores are archived and no longer reportable.So your score now will be documented as first attempt.I stand to be corrected.
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| arlete
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I wish somebody who's been there, done that could tell us the sure answer. 
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| foucesed doc
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I am 100% sure that your attempt will be seen,no matter how long back you took the exam as now we speak,rules change all the time.
How I know?bcos I took my failure attempt in 1998,and last year during interview they knew.I hope I answer the question.
good luck.
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| arlete
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OK, we found one with the answer!
Thanks!
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