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BRAVO, p4a99!! Well said!!
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| mukho
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wow p4a99...that was a very interesting read!!
given that my visa still hasnt come thru am not quite ready to run away, but given that i did match maybe i will in some time...however, there maybe other reasons to why ppl leave the forum ...and this is from my point of view of course ...
sure there are ppl who are all take take and never give back...telling them to give back isnt usually going to make a diff bt its right to let them know how ppl feel about such attitude...last yr when i was preparing for the steps and match, i was a very avid reader of this forum and other such forums...i never actually wrote in any forum except this one...reason being my talents as a blogger are very limited and i never felt i really had any info someone hadn't already delivered...still i was very comfortable in this forum and i have written in occasionally (so there is one person at least who vouches for P4U's ability to make one comfortable vs SDN!!)...in fact i rarely had to post a query coz most of the times someone had already asked the ques previously...after match now i think i have written in most of what i feel is unique to my experience and then, unless u enjoy blogging it becomes meaningless to visit the forum very frequently...not to mention each yr the process changes and it doesnt take to long to get obsolete on the technical details...not having a subforum for residents is obviously an issue too...
all in all, am not justifying why ppl after joining residency never return to the forum am just saying not all of us who decrease their visits are such awful jerks ...
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| paheli
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Mukho, I don't want to lose much time in nominating you the Angel of the forum, from my perspective, considering how much you've helped me, behind-the-scenes. You'll be quick to deny, I know. So, I'll be quicker to say a massive Thanks!
There are many other kind souls here, but you've been IT for me. Will send you an email soon. Also, the amount of info you've shared in the Peds forum is beyond praising. [Sorry, hope I haven't made you uncomfortable or anything.] Good day, my friend.
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| new_n_lost
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Well i guess the point what Praying is trying to make that whether or not you enjoy blogging or such internet facilities, You did use them and did spend a lot of time on it when you needed it. Now some other person is stuck in the same position as you were in. Wouldnt it be helpful that you sort of stick it out with him as someone had done for you when you were stuck. The forum seniors need to think of it in the long term. We as IMGs have always complained that our fellow IMG Residents dont help us much. So when are we going to change it. Every year a new lot of people come here and then a old lot goes further into the field. When will the old lot turn around and give a helping hand to the new lot. Last year we saw the same thing people who complained of not receiveing help from the seniors didnt turn around and helped the others.
The point i m trying to make is that lets stop this cycle of not helping. There are lot bad and mean people in the world and most of them have this very beautiful art of sugarcoating their meaness into very a helpful attitude. And then they start to spread the wrong info out.
It may be meaningless to a lot of people not to come back to the place that they sought help from cos for them friends and charity and helping others is totally meaningless. They have their own NGO as their mission/cause in life and they will raise charity for that only. That NGO is called "ME". They will do everything for it. And just to wipe out their guilt, they will come back and help out a few others so that they can have a good night sleep.
It takes a minimal effort to walk away and a whole lot of effort to stay and work things out.
Apart from all what is being said i guess the issue lies herein the fact that the Residency Forum should be linked up. But as we all know our Admin is a Doc himself and is terribly busy. Also believe me that this fourm has a huge impact on a lot of people. I know this because we are being threatened with a defamation lawsuit as the views of the members here are very damaging to a particular business. If they felt the need to stop us and we should also feel the need to move ahead and keep on helping others.
My own personal belief is that people who are pretty much straight-forward are usually the ones who will help you in the end but the ones that are overtly nice and seemingly helpful will only help when it suits them. Thats how people are and thats how things are done. But we and you ( the people reading this thread and post) need to change this.
My sincere thanks to all the Seniors who have helped me and are still helping others here. And especially to infrequent visitors like Muhko who have showed that its not meaningless to help out others.
Sorry for such a lengthy post. Again these are my 2 cents of thoughts.
Edited by new_n_lost on 04/14/08 - 06:13 PM
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| mukho
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paheli its u who are angelicaly kind...NNL, point taken...though i still think more than idealistic emotion it is practical advantage that runs a successful venture...so of course a residency forum would be great, though i realize that it may be administratively difficult...well i guess i'll stick around long enuff to make my time 'meaningful' and find out how things develop ...
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| praying4a99
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I never intended on putting the entire burden on new residents. The same concepts apply to guys whom graduate from Step 1, Step 2, or Step 3. Don’t you realize how many disappear once their exams are done? Now that is totally OK and Normal. The problem is that they got so much help from so many people during their critical moments and they still feel that they can simply walk away at the end of their prep with out paying-forward. Not paying-back, but paying forward. This is a cycle, you know. I loved what NNL said about stopping this creepy medical attitude. Let’s all, for once, stand up and put our hands in each other's and help one another.
Give and Take For God's Sake!
Man, I feel ready to start campaigning! 
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| paheli
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You know what, p4a99, I initially agreed with you only partially, regarding people coming back to leave something useful for the next year's hopefuls. I felt you can't expect too much from people, esp in a free forum such as this. But, y'day I spent ~5 mins in the Peds Match forum, and it changed my mind. You know why I only spent 5 mins there? Coz there's NOTHING!! The entire sub-forum is hardly 5 pages long, and it consists of thread after thread of unanswered qns. Obviously nobody came back coz no one answered their qn, and no one yet has felt the wish to start a good thing. This saddened me, coz I believe Peds is quite popular among IMGs. And, I can expect to get very little help from past threads in this upcoming match.
I guess this year is a little bit different, coz at least one member is still around after having matched, and tries to answer to the best of her knowledge.
But, one thing I do stand by is that there's a huge amount of help on this forum via PMs. I've mentioned this before, that I've received tremendous support and advice from people on a one-to-one basis rather than via public threads. Some people just don't feel like posting spontaneously, but if you approach them otherwise, they're extremely helpful. So, though PMs only help one person vs threads that help innumerable, I think PM at least helps one where we have no threads.
Anyway, I guess the way to go forward is to continue to create useful threads and pool our knowledge. I think it can be done. Others will eventually follow, even the ones we now accuse of not contributing.
We can prolly have some sort of incentive or something else to distinguish the 'distinguished members' from the others. Not just based on no of threads created/posts, but via quality of qns raised/answers given. This can be monitored by a bunch of chosen respected members. Just a thought.
Sorry for the lengthy post.
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| praying4a99
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If you found the PMs you received very helpful, you can turn them into a Q&A threads so others can benefit from them.
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| paheli
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I wouldn't want to directly quote them anywhere, coz that wouldn't be right without permission, and some of them do not visit very often. But, much of what I have recd via PM, I share via my answers to qns raised by others, and that's how I've been passing it along. And, as you can see, the more info you gather, the more doubts you have, coz I think I ask a lot, a LOT of qns, that people must be bored of them!
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| praying4a99
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In my opinion quoting with or without permission is OK as long as it cannot harm them in anyway. General info is not owned by anyone.
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| paheli
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I agree, but I don't want to say XYZ told me this ----------etc. They may not like it. I can just say what they told me instead.
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| praying4a99
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A simple way to contribute even if you have poor writing-skills and don't have enough time:
You can rate resources:
here:
http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/13040/
here:
http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/11993/
and here:
http://www.prep4usmle.com/resources/29/
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You can share your biggest mistakes studying for step 1 over here:
http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/19081/
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Q. "I was wondering, we keep on saying that no one comes back to share/contribute/help ....but what do you think is making members over at SDN come back and be so helpful? what incentive do they have? they're like everyone else in the sense that they're just as busy and whatnot, yet they find time to help out....so what gives?"
A. "What makes the thousands of writers and contributors come back to Wikipedia each day to write new articles, revise old ones, and make sure everything is running how it is supposed to in spite them working for free?"
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"A volunteer is someone who works for free for a community or for the benefit of natural environment primarily because they choose to do so.
The word comes from Latin, and can be translated as "will" (as in doing something out of ones own free will). Many serve through a non-profit organization – sometimes referred to as formal volunteering, but a significant number also serve less formally, either individually or as part of a group.
By definition, a volunteer worker does not get paid or receive compensation for services rendered other than reimbursement for out-of-pocket expenses."
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"Virtual volunteering is a term describing a volunteer who completes tasks, in whole or in part, offsite from the organization being assisted, using the Internet and a home, school, telecenter or work computer.
Virtual volunteering is also known as online volunteering, cyber service, telementoring, and teletutoring, and various other names.
Virtual volunteering is similar to telecommuting, except that, instead of online employees who are paid, these are online volunteers who are not paid.
It would be as impossible to list every possible virtual volunteering task, just as it would be impossible to list every possible onsite, face-to-face volunteering task.
People engaged in virtual volunteering include those who, from home, school, a telecenter or work computer, undertake a variety of activities, without pay, for a nonprofit organization, school, community, environmental or cause-based initiative, such as:
- translating documents
- researching subjects
- creating web pages
- editing or writing proposals, press releases, newsletter articles, etc.
- developing material for a curriculum
- designing a database
- designing graphics
- providing legal, business, medical, agricultural or any other expertise
- counseling people
- tutoring or mentoring students
- moderating online discussion groups
- writing songs
- creating a podcast
- editing a video
- monitoring the news"
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| mukho
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so what makes people come bak to SDN and wiki but not here (as is the complaint) ....what makes them volunteer out there but not here....was that answered??? is it an inherent lack of 'volunteer' nature seen among Prep4 members or is it something to do with prep4 itself...sorry for being so dense
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| GOGETA
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where is the opinion of other people?
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