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isnt it a better idea to merge them?
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Man, have a look at this thread:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=...
We should have a similar one of these for residency programs. That would be extremely helpful.
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Student doctor is more for AMERICANS, even they try, but they are not very IMG friendly. They have some good stuff overall.
Here it was, but when you compare it to the forums is still is more couzy. like friends getting together in strabucks talking about what ever and trying to help each other.
usmleforums they are THE MOST ACTIVE usmle forum there is. Is mainly from and for IMG. problem is the disorganization, if they had it by subject or system it will be a plus. AND THEY WILL NEVER CHANGE THAT. so do not wait if usmleforum will get more organize or with subforums. Now you can say what ever, and you find some people that are strogeling that they vent in the wrong way. I remember a lady saying that all men were evil and then in another thread she iis talking how long was the last time she got laid because of the time she dedicate to the exams OMG 
usmleworld they now are trying a different typw of forum, in the past only the step1 forum was worth visiting the rest was full of spam. And I just went and start talking that new forums GOGETA WILL BE KNOWN IN ALL USMLE FORUMSSSSSSSSSSSS
Valuemd is mainlly a blog for students in caribean or universities with a high student popUlation that will come to the US. for USMLE in general they are very good,in step1 they have the tommy concepts and they have a free question bank for the first aid.
I think those are the forums I visit, if you have another one please tell me so I can go and be present
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Residents for example, why would they ever hang out here? many have asked why they dont (remember GOGETA) ... but really, why should they? Simply, they shouldn't ... cuz there is nothing for them to do over here!
In another forum I learn this the hard way
Step1 everyone is your buddy, you talk more and share more.
USMLE step2 people remember you some will help
MATCH who are you? Do I know you? I will not help you becaus eyou might get my spot.
People in general are MEAN, yes they are. Just whact the movie called street kings that is the way I see life now.
People are for themself and helping is most of the time a nono.
If you got what you wanted why keep helping? that is what someone ask me why I was still around stpe 1 forums.
So very few people will still have kind hearts to help
So people in residency
Most of the time do not have time to help, actually they have little time. but they might come form time to time.
I will never forget a friend that just recently match that told me. If you make it to residency why waste your time with those loosers. If I could sell muy mom for this I would have done it. OMG what is wrong with this people.
and he conclude it with as you see I will not have time for you either
Now I know why the heart of people get cold and distant.
Now let me keep reading
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You still did not lose your talent at making me laugh.
Anyway, if the majority of the members at SDN are American, that does not make them hostile nor does it make the SDN non IMG friendly. Till now I did not see an IMG being attacked there. They have plenty of moderators (not like stupid usmleforum). And they have an entire forum for international students.
Please everyone, what makes a forum valuble is not only nice friendly smiley kind members. That does not do the job. You need a lot of contributors, writers, thinkers, smart people, with different talents.
Sure, friendly members can make the whole experience feel better, but at the end of the day you need some real good concrete advice that you can rely on.
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we have bbb and that is concrete advise.
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praying4a99 wrote:You still did not lose your talent at making me laugh.
Even in the darkest hour your true self will come out.
I might go into siquitria e=d make my schizo patients laugh
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Example:
I think all of us read askdoc's article on Step1. Personaly I read it like 5 times (cuz I edited it). It has more than 20,000 hits. Thousands of people benefited from it. Almost everyone who read it learned something.
Now, how many PMs or chit chat posts would you have to type back and forth with your friend to get an equivalent amount of benefit, tips, facts, and experience?
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I do not get it, Im extra slow lately
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Silver, where are you?
It seems you are the only one who gets me on this.
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praying4a99 wrote:
Silver, where are you?
It seems you are the only one who gets me on this.
well it's true what you've said. forums aren't made worthwhile by only the members. as you can see SDN's idea of contributions is highly regarded and extremely helpful. and i think the admin should think about this and get well qualified medical professionals to contribute to this site. i, like everyone else, appreciate all the advice and suggestions bbb gives us but we need more individuals like her.
gogeta you said that once people make it to residency they don't look back. well that's not across the board, after all residents are contributing to SDN--so not everyone is selfish, but yes i do get what you mean.
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p4a99: You're comparing apples and potatoes here. SDN is in a different category of forums. Members stay active from highschool, all the way to Attending, and even PDs [yes, there's a ProgDirector there] Obviously, they rack up 1000s of posts, even tens of 1000s, over say a decade or more. p4u caters for a totally different purpose, for those who are studying for USMLE, for a brief and intense period of ~1 or 2 years. Members here learn how to study the American way, for the first time. Since this is solely a USMLE forum, we have no scope for Nurses, PAs, military medicine etc who form a significant chunk of SDN.
As for IMGs in the Match, SDN members will not be able to give us info for one simple reason - THEY DON'T KNOW. They don't know our chances, our tribulations, which the so-called IMG-friendly progs are, visa issues, how important USCE is or how hard it is to obtain i.e. the info that we need. And, while I appreciate the size and organized manner that SDN is maintained in, inclusive of the professional heavyweights, it's not what I [as an example] need as an IMG.
I repeat, SDN has innumerable advantages and plus points, but if you think it's all rosy, you need to think again. I have come across nasty posts, condescending posts, and yes, even some misleading posts. I'd link them here, but I don't have the time to find them.
And, if we quote Askdoc's invaluable thread, and imagine being loads more, trust me, they will lose the value. Also, do you know how much commitment it takes to come up with a single thread like that? While we appreciate the effort, it is not right to expect such threads from people. Also, we mustn't underestimate the impact of PMs, coz even a single PM can have great value for the recipient.
I totally agree with you that we need people to come back/stay back after they've matched, so they can describe to us the view from the other side. But, maybe it's just me, but this year, there are still a number of to-be Interns who are around [Many have of course logged out] Instead of berating a whole bunch for moving on, perhaps deciding to hang around can be an individual decision. [Just to name a few people who are here: minang - Peds Resident, moozy - Surgery I think etc] I hope a few more will show up come next Match.
And, the one thing that no one has mentioned here so far, is the quality of our English. I had brought this up earlier too, and I bring it up now. Majority of members [I'll be bold and say ~95% of members] do not bother about trivial issues such as punctuation, spelling, grammar, even fluent sentences. This gives our entire forum a look of amateurity. This may ruffle some feathers, but only because it's true. God help us when we communicate face-to-face with PDs, or - oh God - write our PS. A look of professionality is what we need to develop. Then, no matter how small our forum is, it will still look substantial.
My $2.
P.S. I'm in no way trying to show SDN in a bad color, but just highlighting that p4u is unique in its functions and objectives.
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this is just an example, but for instance if we take a look at how many members on this forum are asking around about their visa issues, and everyone is helping each other out with their experiences and personal info that they have--which is a great thing, but how about getting a lawyer who deals with visa/immigration issues and has had img clients and getting him/her to put in his 2 cents about what all the pertinent legalities are. not everyone's case is similar which leaves still some questions unanswered. so may be a lawyer can contribute and cover a topic weekly or monthy.
there's a member on this forum right now who is presently in his home country and asking about disability clauses--who can give him a reliable and authentic answer? obviously someone who is directly involved in this area.
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Re: visa issues, we are all from different countries, so no one is qualified to give advice, though we share what little we know via experience. Still, someone with my very same situation was last week denied visa, while I got a 10-yr ME. True story. Also, US visa laws differ among countries, so how can anyone proclaim knowledge on that? Yes, it would be nice if we had more official people around, but that's for the Admin/Owner to decide as to When and Who.
Btw, are there people on SDN giving free legal opinions? I can't believe they'd do that. That's the easiest way for a lawyer to get sued!! 
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I think P4U is far more organized as compared to SDN, also people are great over here, just like a family.
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paheli wrote:SDN is in a different category of forums. Members stay active from highschool, all the way to Attending, and even PDs [yes, there's a ProgDirector there] Obviously, they rack up 1000s of posts, even tens of 1000s, over say a decade or more. p4u caters for a totally different purpose, (agree) for those who are studying for USMLE, for a brief and intense period of ~1 or 2 years. Since this is solely a USMLE forum. As for IMGs in the Match, SDN members will not be able to give us info for one simple reason - THEY DON'T KNOW. (i believe you are underestimating how many IMGs are active members over there ... I found a moderator and several big members from here posting over there ... plus Americans can help IMG in many issues too) They don't know our chances, our tribulations, which the so-called IMG-friendly progs are, visa issues, how important USCE is or how hard it is to obtain i.e. the info that we need. (probably if they knew the answeres to these questions they would have done a better job at explaining, writing, sharing, and putting it in a concise readable way to help the most amount of people possible). And, while I appreciate the size and organized manner that SDN is maintained in, inclusive of the professional heavyweights, it's not what I [as an example] need as an IMG. (i understand  ... I am not asking anyone to leave this forum and head over there ... just please, lets make this a better and more helpful forum ... If someone is saying to himself: "WHY SO? I THINK THIS FORUM IS PERFECT?" Ill say: "Dude, you are surely missing out on a lot of things. Please give SDN a visit and see how developed and mature forums can be" True, SDN is a huge NETWORK not just a forum) I repeat, SDN has innumerable advantages and plus points, but if you think it's all rosy, you need to think again. (too bad nothing is all rosy these days ) I have come across nasty posts, condescending posts, and yes, even some misleading posts. (dear, there are crazy, nasty, stupid, mean people everywhere ... I am complementing their Accomplishments and great Articles ... I am not praising all their Members) And, if we quote Askdoc's invaluable thread, and imagine being loads more, trust me, they will lose the value. (sorry, I disagree ... why not have another 5-6 equivalent articles? in my opinion that would enrich the users experience) Also, do you know how much commitment it takes to come up with a single thread like that? (yes, I do ... I do write you know ... Im not asking everysingle member to write .... I know most members Wont write Anything. That is human nature. Not all human have that urge inside them to help others. Just the guys who have the talent and brains, please give us a couple of hours from your valuble time ... helping others goes a long way ... ) While we appreciate the effort, it is not right to expect such threads from people. Also, we mustn't underestimate the impact of PMs, coz even a single PM can have great value for the recipient. (only a single individual benefits from each PM, while thousands benefit from Bigtime posts) I totally agree with you that we need people to come back/stay back after they've matched, so they can describe to us the view from the other side. But, maybe it's just me, but this year, there are still a number of to-be Interns who are around [Many have of course logged out] Instead of berating a whole bunch for moving on, perhaps deciding to hang around can be an individual decision. [Just to name a few people who are here: minang - Peds Resident, moozy - Surgery I think etc] I hope a few more will show up come next Match. (there are others too: SSRPK - Chemamer - Glo MD and others ... how would you make others stay also? build them some residency forums over here ... not on an entire other website) And, the one thing that no one has mentioned here so far, is the quality of our English. I had brought this up earlier too, and I bring it up now. Majority of members [I'll be bold and say ~95% of members] do not bother about trivial issues such as punctuation, spelling, grammar, even fluent sentences. This gives our entire forum a look of amateurity. God help us when we communicate face-to-face with PDs, or - oh God - write our PS. A look of professionality is what we need to develop. Then, no matter how small our forum is, it will still look substantial. (I agree, I am a living example, trashy english, bad spelling and no writing talents ... but Im working on it)
Edited by praying4a99 on 04/13/08 - 04:08 AM
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I have nothing to say regarding VISA issues. What does that stand for anyway?
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paheli: like i said it was just an example--i know no lawyer would give free legal advice but as imgs we're in more need of guidance, wouldn't you say? not everyone has the goodwill of being in america--most members are still in their home countries trying to decipher how things work in america.
furthermore, we're not here to glorify SDN, i also agree that p4u is a great place and kudos to the admin for starting this site, it's extremely helpful but we can broaden it more. you can't overlook the fact that contributions by practicing medical professionals is priceless. wouldn't you like someone giving you advice on how to prep for the residency interview? and that too by someone who is on the panel?
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and not just "medical heavyweights"....i'm just suggesting it would be nice if members of this forum who are in their residencies now would mind sharing every now and then.....i'm not asking for long drawn out posts, but from time to time touching base and giving feedback would be nice. of course in the end what we will face will be our own journey, but getting some advice along the way never hurt anyone.
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Hey, silver, both the points you have made in your 2 last posts, I have said exactly the same thing in my mile-long post as well. So, we agree!
I'm just of the school of thought that it will be great if people come back, but we can't expect them to. It's their right to move on, regardless of whether I agree or whether I'd do the same. [Let's face it, on a given normal distribution curve, the majority of people move on. It's the kind souls at say +3SD that stay back. And, we do have some of them here]
Edited by paheli on 04/13/08 - 08:45 AM
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p4a99: I think we agreed that......we agree!
About the IMGs at SDN, yes, I admit there are quite a number of them. But, the ones I've come across are Americans [white, I'm assuming] who are studying in Europe, the Caribbean and Australia. I'm yet to come across someone who studied in their home country which happens to be not America. [The America-born Indians who went to India for Med school are a whole different story.] They do not belong to the same cluster of IMGs that form p4u.
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I like here
It's simple ; rich in data & helpful people
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I like here
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While some should come back, most do not. No one denied them their precious right of moving on but you expect some to pay back the forum a little bit. Give and take. That is the simplest and most common sense ethical law there is in the world.
There is another thing that might be contributing to this problem. I’m not sure if you have heard of it or even experienced it with someone you know. Some medical students have rotten personalities and egos. They just want the best for themselves and screw all others. As long as they are well they are happy. They will lie and be dishonest to you because they are afraid that you’ll succeed more than them.
Some are very afraid of not matching or failing an exam. If they end up matching or passing, they’ll say to themselves Thank God and screw all of you others! (Well, they don’t have to say it to actually feel it!)
Regarding the coming back thing after being done with all this USMLE stuff, of course, I don’t expect everyone to stick on this forum till they die! Just while you are here, or when you move on with your life, leave the forum a kudo or two that others may benefit from.
LOOK BEYOND YOUR SELF. THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE THAT NEED HELP. IT IS NOT JUST YOU OUT THERE YOU KNOW. WHO DO YOU THINK WROTE ALL OF THESE THREADS? THEY ARE NOT COPY/PASTED! SOMEONE SAT DOWN AND CUTOUT SOME OF HIS TIME FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS. YES, OTHER LIKE YOU! IF YOU DON’T HAVE THAT SENSE OF WANTING TO HELP OTHERS OVERHERE, IM NOT SURE THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH COMPATION TO HELP YOUR ILL-NOT-GOOD-LOOKING PATIENTS.
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