DrChivago
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step 1 85 ( 5 attempts)
step 2 86 ( 4 attempts)
CS ( 1 attempt)
I am US Citizen, clinical research coordinator for 4 years. several publications and posters. Can I have a chance for IM?? anybody know people with several attempts doing a residency in US?? I am praying everyday.
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| abusedpostdoc
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I have a friend that is applying to Psych. He went to a Caribbean school. He has more than one attempts on Step 1 ( I do not know exactly how many and I don't feel like asking him about it). I know he has passed Step 2 on 3rd attempt. CS - 1st attempt. He got 3 invites for Psych - two through friends who are at those programs and one invite from a community program, which just picked up his application i.e. he did not influence them in any way.
I have another friend with multiple attempts on Step 1, Step 2 passed first time ( I don't know the scores and I don't feel it will be nice to ask) - however she did not get any invitations.
I am wondering the same - do people with several attempts get invitations? Do they ever make it into a residency training here? My cousin passed her Step 1 on first attempt and with a decent score. However she failed Step 2 - it was such a shock - nobody expected it. Since she has never, ever failed an exam in her life she doesn't know how to deal with it and currently is very depressed and discouraged. She is thinking of enrolling into a Physician Assistant school I don't know what to tell her myself.
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| arlete
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In Illinois, you are suposed to have passed all the steps in a total of 5 attempts, so don't waste your money applying to residency programs there.
I think everything is possible. People know that taking a test is different from being a good professional, and you have a good cv. Good luck!
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| DrVirgo
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I think it goes by state... Each state has a different requirement for time limit for completing all steps (most say 7 years) AND for number of attempts, which varies widely... For example Florida has NO LIMIT on number of attempts, whereas Iowa has very specific guidelines and says: "6 attempts at both USMLE Step 1 and 2; 3 attempts at USMLE Step 3. Three years of approved postgraduate training needed if outside the attempt limit."
See this chart -It lists all states and their requirements:
http://www.fsmb.org/usmle_eliinitial.html
Good luck! 
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| ram3
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do you have any connections?
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| dermdoc57
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arlete.I don't think that PDs think that test taking is different from being a good professional.All our life we hear that be compassionate ,empathetic and non-judgemental when caring for our patients.All this vanishes into thin air when it comes to residency applicants.People tend to forget what hell might be going in peoples' lives and I am sure stress of exams and uncertainity of future does take its toll.To do good in exams does require a peaceful mind.I agree that it is our own decision to come here but looking at the mess here you are frustrated and the worst part is no one seems to care.
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| new_n_lost
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dermdoc57 wrote:
arlete.I don't think that PDs think that test taking is different from being a good professional.All our life we hear that be compassionate ,empathetic and non-judgemental when caring for our patients.All this vanishes into thin air when it comes to residency applicants.People tend to forget what hell might be going in peoples' lives and I am sure stress of exams and uncertainity of future does take its toll.To do good in exams does require a peaceful mind.I agree that it is our own decision to come here but looking at the mess here you are frustrated and the worst part is no one seems to care.
And your point is. 
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| dermdoc57
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for you nnl to understand and spread
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| arlete
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dermdoc57:
I'm sorry you are so pessimist, hopefully something good and/or exceptional will happen to you or somebody close to you to prove otherwise. Or you are a realist, but I still prefer to be like me and have faith on people's common sense.
I think PDs are receiving too many applications now a days and they have to sort it out some way. So they cut low scores and old graduates for the sake of not having to look at every single application/cv/LORs package they receive. But they know they may risk loosing a good candidate by doing that. Sometimes people who have the chance of knocking at their doors personally have a better chance than the ones that present themselves through papers. These are the people who may be the exceptions to the "no one seems to care" rule.
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| ram3
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| DrChivago
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Thank you to everybody for your kind opinions. Unfortunately my connections are in Texas where I was a clinical research coordinator at some University. Texas has the rule that only 3 attempts in each step is allowed so I am out  . I will have to look in other states.
Like Arlete said I would have to knock doors in person due to my several attempts. I was so stupid taking the exams without good preparation. Three attempts for step 1 in 1996-97 and three attempts in step 2 1996-1998. I wish ECFMG release a new law that exams more than 10 years would be annulated but it is not going to happen
I am looking for hospitals that can give me the oportunity for an IV, so I can show then I can be an excellent doctor.
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| B12
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where can I find information on what each state allows/regulations on how many times a person can take each step and within a certain amount of time allotted?? please help. I have thankfully passed on all first tries, but my fiancee took 7 attempts on all three steps (4 on step 1, first attempt on step 2 and 3).. please help.
thanks.
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| whiterabbit
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Hey I thought the usmle scores are valid only for 7 years ! Please check it up buddy
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| DrChivago
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Whiterabbit,
USMLE scores are valid 7 years since the date you pass it. But my failures attempts from 96-97 never will be annulated
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| new_n_lost
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dermdoc57 wrote:
for you nnl to understand and spread
Spread what ?? if i m to spread anything i m supposed to understand it which i cant in this case. Care to elaborate.
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| DrVirgo
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B12 wrote:
where can I find information on what each state allows/regulations on how many times a person can take each step and within a certain amount of time allotted?? please help. I have thankfully passed on all first tries, but my fiancee took 7 attempts on all three steps (4 on step 1, first attempt on step 2 and 3).. please help.
thanks.
Hey I already posted this earlier in the thread, but here it is again:
http://www.fsmb.org/usmle_eliinitial.html
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| ashraf786
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Hello Dr Chivago
Hope u get an IV soon.I am staying in austin,texas.I am looking for research coordinator posts.can u plz guide me.u can email me at m_sajeed@yahoo.com or call on 512-535-5966.any input will b helpful.
good luck
sajeed ashraf
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| dermdoc57
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dear nnl .forget it .It is better you have not been through tough times and i wish nobody goes through.You can feel the pain only if you are hurt.
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| angel^Doctor
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i don't want to intrude but i couldn't stop my self from commenting
It is really insipiring that you didn't give up after several attemps and that you didn't lose hope. I think it's a positive thing you have and you should show it in your personal statement this way !
i hope you match soon
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| B12
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DrVirgo:
Thanks!
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| intern_doc
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hey bro,
my bes friend, carribean 03 grad, 2 yrs usce
his CV is worst than your
step 1 <80 (5th)
step 2 <80 (5th)
step CS (2nd)
got IV from FM through connection. So, anything is possible
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| DrChivago
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Ashraf,
I applied to the medical school in my area in different clinical programs on line. Nobody responded me so I went in person and introduce myself. One of the programs gave me the oportunity to start as a volunteer and after 8 months they hired me as a research coordinator.
Unfortunately in Austin there is not med school so you will have to knock doors in private practices. Good luck
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| DrChivago
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Come on..Am I the only person with several attempts in this forum??
Thanks to everybody for the encouragement.
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| Lex
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No your not...I am too a multiple attempter
Hoping for positive outcomes for us
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| ashraf786
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hello chivago
thanks for the reply.yes i m thinking of knocking the doors in person .good luck.
thanks
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