abdo Forum Senior
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| | 02/04/08 - 06:21 AM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
i m a student from egypt in the last year of medical school i did step 1 and i wanted to know if taking my internship in usa will increase the chances of getting the residency and will be a good support in my cv , besides if anybody knows the duration i could stay in the us , some says that i can only do it in 6 months and this will have a good feedback in my chances , others say i should stay more time and how much will it cost and will it be better in some hospitals .. plz anybody has info i will be thankful to hear it
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| doctor_mhl Forum Newbie

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| | 03/26/08 - 07:01 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
well , it depends on your scores, if you already got high scores , do it for 3 to 6 month , if your score was not highe enough it will be better tostay more than 6 month sure it will have a great feedback in your chances as it makes you prefered candidate ,the cost differs from place to another and some requires tution fee others dont ,so it depends on the place . GL
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| RX 135 Forum Elite

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| | 03/27/08 - 11:30 AM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
do it...i still sufer for missing t oppurtunity..it doesnt matter wat ur scores are do it..lenght can depend u can extend them but it depends
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| njcjzy Forum Guru

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| | 03/27/08 - 01:28 PM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
US experience is always a nice and strong plus. And for medical students, many american medical schools take on international medical students for electives. If you plan to do that, do as early as you can. Best of luck.
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 03/27/08 - 02:02 PM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
I think the meaning of internship in Unites states is different from some other countries- correct me if I'm wrong. In my country- and Eygpt as far as i know- we do 3 month of medicine and surgery each, and 2 months of obs/ gne and peds each. Isn't in that equivelent to the transitional year in US ,and the intern ship is the first year of residency ?
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| maoudoody Forum Elite

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| | 03/28/08 - 05:28 AM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
yest internship is the first year in residency in usa
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 03/28/08 - 08:37 AM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
so i guess what abdo means in the transitional year ! now i'm getting confused !
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| abdo Forum Senior
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| | 03/28/08 - 09:49 AM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
what i meant is that in egypt , the intership is the last year in medicine , we study 6 years medicine , and we take a year of internship before graduation , a clinical year , i dont know if that is present in everycountry , but when i asked i heard that internship is the first year in residency in usa , now i m looking for observership and externship , but i cant find info , a little hospitals which offer observership .. can anybody tell me any sites for imgservisces where i can find info ...thanks
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| maoudoody Forum Elite

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| | 03/28/08 - 09:55 AM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
abdo internship here in egypt is done after graduation internship in egypt is only necessary to get general registeration as a general practitioner and to practice in egypt this year is the first year in us residency so i think u should try to do electives
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| abdo Forum Senior
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| | 03/28/08 - 10:10 AM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
well thanks but can i do electives when i m in emtiaz here in egypt .. and will electives for 3 - 6 months will help me to get residency
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| abdo Forum Senior
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| | 03/28/08 - 10:10 AM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
well thanks but can i do electives when i m in emtiaz here in egypt .. and will electives for 3 - 6 months will help me to get residency?
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| abdo Forum Senior
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| | 03/28/08 - 10:10 AM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
well thanks but can i do electives when i m in emtiaz here in egypt .. and will electives for 3 - 6 months will help me to get residency?
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 03/28/08 - 10:16 AM  
 
   
 
|   #13 |
abdo you should do an elective and not an observership. This is your best and only chance since you are currently in your final year. There are many schools that offers electives for international students. So you choice should depend on the school u want to do the elective in- best to be the one you want to join later for residency, the speciality you want to do the elective in- and here it better to do it in the specitialy you want to join in future so PD get to know you and so you can obtain a good letter of recommendation, and last it should depend on how much you can afford since the fee range from 250/ 1 month elective up to 3200 $ without the accomodations . visit this website to know which university do offer electives for international medical students. http://services.aamc.org/eec/students/index.cfm then visit this website to determine how good is the hopital in the specialty you want to go for http://health.usnews.com/sections/health/best-hos... and finally visit the school website to know the requirements for the elective. you should go for it. Yes it's a long process, but it worth it ! P.S. It may not be easy become your school does not require an elective fr you to be certified for graduation so you may not have a month or two break to do an elective so you have to work it about with your registrar office. Plus, As far as i know the graduation month in Eygpt is june or july - correct me if i'm wrong- so you have to do an elective before this time and the due date of most of the electives that are before june-july are over ! So, Lot of work to be done !!!
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 03/28/08 - 12:20 PM  
 
   
 
|   #14 |
It's better to do your electives in the states so it can be counted as USCE and you obtain LOR
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| abdo Forum Senior
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| | 03/29/08 - 07:58 AM  
 
   
 
|   #15 |
special thanks angel doc . good work
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 03/29/08 - 08:57 AM  
 
   
 
|   #16 |
regarding the possibility of doing observership during you internship year- You should check if you program allow you to take a break when doing your internship .I don't think there is a restriction about the time of doing observership in US as long as you are a graguate. iI believe it is mainly about your syste ( i.e. wether they allow you to do it while your doing internship).
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| maoudoody Forum Elite

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| | 03/29/08 - 09:06 AM  
 
   
 
|   #17 |
abdo it is legal to do the two months of anaesthesia and emergency medicine outside egypt but htey must be hands on not observership so during ur internship u can do theses two months abroad........as regard other rotations they must be done in egypt besides i tried during the sixth year to do an elective but got many rejections and surrendered hope u do it so my advice is to start contacting usa universities from now and at the same time study
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| doctor_mhl Forum Newbie

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| | 03/29/08 - 10:35 AM  
 
   
 
|   #18 |
maoudoody are you sure that in egypt abroad electives are only for 2 months not 4?
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| abdo Forum Senior
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| | 04/04/08 - 02:04 AM  
 
   
 
|   #19 |
well thanks so much , but i wnat to know whihc is better in the cv , an elective or observership and externship ?
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| Mario Forum Newbie
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| | 04/07/08 - 06:47 AM  
 
   
 
|   #20 |
Hi... Having done electives for 1 month and what I gather from forums, I believe them to be superior to observerships. So if some one has graduated or is about to graduate and enter the so called internship year in his country, Can they not apply for electives/ externship during that time?? How do US schools see these med students who are in the transition phase from med school to residency?
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 04/07/08 - 08:12 AM  
 
   
 
|   #21 |
In my country, intership is not seens as final year because we get our graduation certificate before doing this year. If your school release your certificate after the internship and it is regarded as a final year in your system, then you may apply to electives and seen as a student in the final year. What i know, when appling to electives, your graduation date is what determines your final year so if it is after finishing the internship year then it may be considered your final year. I think you should contact the university your intrested in taking elective in and explain your situation , they understand and they'll help you in that.
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| Mario Forum Newbie
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| | 04/07/08 - 08:22 AM  
 
   
 
|   #22 |
Thanks angel Doctor...that was really informative and useful. Let me know if I can be of any help
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| angel^Doctor Forum Elite
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| | 04/07/08 - 09:06 AM  
 
   
 
|   #23 |
you are welcome akshat. Thanks you
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