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| | 01/08/08 - 04:11 PM  
 
   
 
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A 34 year old white wmoan comes to the ER complaining of difficulty breathing that started suddenly several hours ago. She has never had such symptoms before. Her past medical history is significant of rheumatiod arthritis. Her current medications include naproxen, and an oral contraceptive. She smokes 1 and a half packs a day, but does not consume alcohol. Her blood pressure is 110/70 mmHg and her HR is 105/min. Lungs are clear on auscultation. EKG and chest x-ray are normal. Ventilation/perfusion scan was performed, but the results were inconclusive. What is the best next step in the management of this patient? A. Pulmonary angiography B. Pulmonary function tests C. Venous ultrasonography D. Contrast phlebography E. Transesophageal echocardiography Please answer and give your EXPLAINATION. Thanks.
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| Aashi Forum Moderator

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| | 01/08/08 - 04:57 PM  
 
   
 
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P.E s/s----->but v/q inconclusive----->do doppler u/s legs and if INITIALLY V/Q was normaL, this will rule out P.E------------>C
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| DrVirgo Forum Hero

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| | 01/08/08 - 05:28 PM  
 
   
 
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Yes thats right... Here is my understanding of PE Diagnosis for a case like this: --- Do a V/Q Scan -three possibilities -1. V/Q Mismatch --> Treat -2. V/Q Normal ---> R/O PE -3. V/Q Inconclusive ---> Do a Venous U/S (to find DVT) OR a CT Angio (which may show a large PE) ---If EITHER Venous U/S OR CT Angio is Negative ---> do a Pulmonary Angio (last test because invasive) ---If EITHER Venous U/S OR CT Angio is Positive --> Treat with Heparin (?) -Is this right?
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| Aashi Forum Moderator

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| | 01/08/08 - 05:34 PM  
 
   
 
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You may do a CT scan FIRST in pts with underlying lung pathology like pneumonia or COPD/bronchiectasis, coz false positive rates are higher if you ask for V/Q scans on such pts... This pts cxray is clear, auscultation was normal------>so V/Q is the best INTITAL dx tool....
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| multifactorial Forum Guru
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| | 01/08/08 - 06:35 PM  
 
   
 
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transesophageal echo.for one thing that it is non invasive and we need to find evidence in the lungs first before moving to the extremites and doing Doppler etc.and then it has great sensitivity and specificity for pulmonary embolism.
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| drduck Forum Guru
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| | 01/08/08 - 10:07 PM  
 
   
 
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V/Q scan, good for initial investigation or suspision of PE as it is CHEAP. but if it is negative or inconclusive then one shud directly go for PULMONARY ANGIOGRAPHY...which is the GOLD STANDARD investigation for PE. but it is INVASIVE and quite EXPENSIVE too.
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| drduck Forum Guru
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| | 01/08/08 - 10:09 PM  
 
   
 
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also, if the hospital has spiral CT, one can directly go for it....without a V/Q scan as it is more sensitive than the later. but still not as much as PUL Angio
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| multifactorial Forum Guru
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| | 01/09/08 - 12:16 PM  
 
   
 
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what is the right answer?
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| neurom Forum Senior

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| | 01/09/08 - 12:26 PM  
 
   
 
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Venous U/S. You have to confirm DVT before putting het on heparin.
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