wolverine9
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I know this is off topic, but with the record amount applications this year, anybody wonder where all the money goes? ERAS charges upto 25 dollars per application and i'm sure it doesn't cost them a fraction of that to actually process and transmit the application, which makes you wonder who benefits out of all this. Do programs get a share for each application they receive?? Considering each program is receiving thousands of applications this year, you can't help but think where does all this money go....Any comments??
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| plastic_surgery
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I don't know where all the money goes but for sure it does not go to the program... in fact programs also pay for each position they fill through ERAS and Match....Each institution pays a fix charge per specialty also.. Someone correct me if I am wrong..
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| wolverine9
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I am writing this post partly because I find it highly unprofessional that programs don't respond to applications. I don't mind being rejected, but it irritates me when you don't hear from a program at all. When a doctor applies to a program, it is common decency to respond with either an iv or a rejection.
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| blablabla0010
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America is a capitalist economy, obeys the laws of supply and demand perfectly
Too many applications, means an oversupply of doctors, so the programs get to be very picky and can afford to be as rude as they want. Am sure you would do the same if you had 2000 applications for a misery 10 IM positions.
Again, I hear the programs have to download everything from everybody who applies to them and then end up not looking at 75% of them, when ERAS allows programs to run thier screening software online and let them download only applications they need, you would easily know who has downloaded your stuff and who has not.
blame us, not them
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| wolverine9
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blablabla0010 wrote:
America is a capitalist economy, obeys the laws of supply and demand perfectly
Too many applications, means an oversupply of doctors, so the programs get to be very picky and can afford to be as rude as they want. Am sure you would do the same if you had 2000 applications for a misery 10 IM positions.
Again, I hear the programs have to download everything from everybody who applies to them and then end up not looking at 75% of them, when ERAS allows programs to run thier screening software online and let them download only applications they need, you would easily know who has downloaded your stuff and who has not.
blame us, not them
blablabla, Sending out a common rejection letter to applicants isn't that difficult even if you get 2000 applications. Even if you don't bother looking at an application, you can have it so it automatically sends out rejection letters. As doctors, I think we should all be respected enough to at least receive a generic rejection letter if we aren't invited to interview.
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| moe214
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i agree 100% w/wolverine9 that programs should respond to every applicants..iv or rej or on hold.
as far as where the $$$ go , one story i heard is that residents salaries r subsedizes partly by gov and ERAS is one of the sources..bbb is this true?
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| plastic_surgery
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Wolverine and Moe, I beg to differ with you on one aspect.. when a program gets 2000 applications and can only call 100 for interview, it is unreasonable to expect an individual rejection. just think of writing 2000 emails.... how long will it take? In certain branches where applicant number is smaller, you may very well get individual rejection....
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| bbb
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moe214 wrote:
i agree 100% w/wolverine9 that programs should respond to every applicants..iv or rej or on hold.
as far as where the $$$ go , one story i heard is that residents salaries r subsedizes partly by gov and ERAS is one of the sources..bbb is this true?
Can't answer if ERAS is one of the sources, I don't know. Residents salaries are subsidized to a degree, not 100%.
As far as programs not sending letters to every applicant - I get slammed if I do, and I get slammed if I don't. We can't win.
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bbb - trying to combine common sense and humour into realistic answers, but not going to guess on anyone's chances of getting into a position....
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| wolverine9
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plastic_surgery wrote:
Wolverine and Moe, I beg to differ with you on one aspect.. when a program gets 2000 applications and can only call 100 for interview, it is unreasonable to expect an individual rejection. just think of writing 2000 emails.... how long will it take? In certain branches where applicant number is smaller, you may very well get individual rejection....
you don't need to write an individual letter to each applicant, just have a generic letter that automatically gets sent to the applicants you aren't considering. I really don't think that is that difficult in this day and age. We should at least be respected enough to get a generic letter that tells us we are either being invited for an IV or rejected.
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| plastic_surgery
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oh! Sure, A response is required... definitely.. programs should be courteous enough to do that.. . I misread your posts.. you were only asking for a generic letter..
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| wolverine9
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bbb, you wouldn't get slammed if you do, every applicant wants to hear from programs. A rejection is better and more respectable than not hearing from a program at all...
By the way, does your program respond to every applicant with either a rejection or an invite?
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