new_n_lost
Politically InCorrect
Topics: 644
Posts: 5,920
|
I wanted your opinions on this one topic. I know one of the member did raise this point, but I noticed that in certain forums we are accused of being as people who dont know English atleast in the grammatical sense.
Ofcourse for most of us here English is the 2nd or 3rd language. But increasingly the posts have been more like chat room phrases or too short or abbreviated. It becomes almost difficult to understand what the other person is saying. I too sometimes use the short abbreviations for words eg. exm, wht, cos, y , r. But does anyone know wht IMHO means ?? I mean for the love of God please stop imitiating young teens thinking that you might be called hip or something.
So in the end should we get this as an forum rule or let it slide.
Ur Opinions will be appreciated.
___________________
FORUM RULES-- Those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. I get enough exercise just by pushing my luck --P4U World.." The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
|
| unique1
InGodITrust
Topics: 19
Posts: 1,423
|
It is a good idea to have some kind of language control. I know most of us have not been to Cambridge but still we can follow simple grammatical rules. Some people do not even care about starting a new sentence with a capital letter while others type with " Caps Lock " key pressed.It is really unbearable to read such a post.
___________________
I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination.
|
| praying4a99
MS-III
Topics: 100
Posts: 2,435
|
Three members brought this up. (that i know of)
Yes, its a problem if they really can't speak well in real life also, so they'll need some help here.
Personally, I would appreciate it if I was told that I'm spelling this and that word incorrectly. We are here to learn. Why not learn Formal English while we are at it? But there is no way that I'm going to spell out Q FA RR everytime I type them.
I guess everything has its limits. We are not in a British English school nor are we in a black youngster chatting room.
Note:
Dear Admin,
The spelling icon, in the editing box, does not work. Can that be fixed in a way or another?
Thanks,
Edited by praying4a99 on 11/23/07 - 01:13 PM
___________________
2008 Study Plan Discussion ..... My Personal Blog
|
| praying4a99
MS-III
Topics: 100
Posts: 2,435
|
I chose #1, but don't edit them, because that is going to make a flow of PMs from Moderators.
___________________
2008 Study Plan Discussion ..... My Personal Blog
|
| new_n_lost
Politically InCorrect
Topics: 644
Posts: 5,920
|
The Poll will not show your name when you vote and Edit them in a sense that we send them a pm regarding their mistakes.
___________________
FORUM RULES-- Those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. I get enough exercise just by pushing my luck --P4U World.." The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
|
| new_n_lost
Politically InCorrect
Topics: 644
Posts: 5,920
|
Alright i gotta get back to my spot in Best Buy line if i ever intend to get a discount on the things i m hoping for.
___________________
FORUM RULES-- Those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. I get enough exercise just by pushing my luck --P4U World.." The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
|
| Doc750
transfer:step 3 prison
Topics: 52
Posts: 634
|
there is no way to enforce this. Sometimes I do read post, and after the third time, I'm still like "huh?". On the same token, I type my post rather quickly and grammer isn't always at the top of my list to check.
and to answer your question IMHO .. in my humble opinion 
___________________
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, and the lesson afterwards.
|
| new_n_lost
Politically InCorrect
Topics: 644
Posts: 5,920
|
Doc750 wrote:
there is no way to enforce this. Sometimes I do read post, and after the third time, I'm still like "huh?". On the same token, I type my post rather quickly and grammer isn't always at the top of my list to check.
Thats why i have asked for your suggestions because lately its becoming more of really hard to understand what the member is trying to say and it gets hard to throught the post and not to edit.
Doc750 wrote:and to answer your question IMHO .. in my humble opinion
I later got that part but how many of us do know it or are getting to know it. My point is that please make the effort.
By the way 2 votes are missing cos the poll shows 5 votes and only 3 have been placed. So probably someone wil have to re-vote again.
___________________
FORUM RULES-- Those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. I get enough exercise just by pushing my luck --P4U World.." The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
|
| CocaCola
Forum Guru
Topics: 35
Posts: 908
|
i don't think we should ask members to use correct grammar - spontaneity of responses will be lost... people who would ordinarily post will hesitate because they aren't sure of sentence structure, etc...
abbreviations is a bit of a problem... I would prefer if people opt to write things out... but that gets a bit tedious... i mean do we write out everything... Everyone here should understand USMLE, ECFMG, etc... but does everyone know FCVS... as a earlier post mentioned it is a bit hard to enforce
whats wrong with asking to clarify if you don't understand a particular post?
___________________
There is one thing we can do, and the happiest people are those who can do it to the limit of their ability. We can be completely present. We can be all here. We can give all our attention to the opportunity before us!!!
|
| silver
Forum Guru
Topics: 21
Posts: 754
|
grammer i feel is a hard thing to keep in check...at this point i don't think anyone's willing to learn, some might not even like being corrected, nor does anyone want to teach it. we're not in english class here. but yeah, the abbreviations i think do need a cutback...of course the abbreviations we all understand and are commonly used, like, ecfmg, usmle, FA, RR, etc.--those are fine, but ones like IMHO--that does get annoying at times.
___________________
Everything turns out ok in the end. If it's not ok, then it's not the end. Expect the worst, and hope for the best.
|
| chemamr
Moderator and PGY1
Topics: 703
Posts: 4,441
|
it seems to be a good idea BUT how could we do it?
the only thing I can think of is making this recommendation/rule for everybody and if they still do it, moderators who notice this can send them a reminder of this new rule (hoping this will be enough, we are MDs, we are educated people who can understand a good reason/argument). And the only purpose of this is that everybody can understand what they are saying.
but I mean, I agree with previous posts, >90% of our members speak english as a 2nd language and we can't ask for miracles (including myself, sorry for the grammar  ).
___________________
Any time something is written against me, I not only share the sentiment but feel I could do the job far better myself.
|
| kity
Certified.............
Topics: 31
Posts: 1,059
|
I agree with silver!!
As for me this forum is to help me out regarding the stresss of the exams & usmle.
sometimes i feel addicted & compelled to visit forum without any need. But I surely dont think much about grammar & abbreviations I use & I am sure I dont have time to think about that..
"I think the purpose of this forum was to support each other so I think that should be priority now too."
And above all we have lots of other stress other than thinking about grammar mistakes or spelling mistakes on forum. I think we can always ask the other person if we dont understand. but asking them to be grammatically correct is not a good idea according to me.
___________________
NO PAIN .. NO GAIN ..
|
| bbb
IM Program Coordinator
Topics: 32
Posts: 4,597
|
If there are too many abbreviations or instant messaging words, I just don't read the post. It slows me up too much.
___________________
bbb - trying to combine common sense and humour into realistic answers, but not going to guess on anyone's chances of getting into a position....
|
| praying4a99
MS-III
Topics: 100
Posts: 2,435
|
So, did you come to a conclusion?
___________________
2008 Study Plan Discussion ..... My Personal Blog
|
| new_n_lost
Politically InCorrect
Topics: 644
Posts: 5,920
|
Its for the Admin to decide lets him weigh in the opinions in the poll.
___________________
FORUM RULES-- Those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. I get enough exercise just by pushing my luck --P4U World.." The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
|
| candie
Forum Newbie
Topics: 2
Posts: 11
|
IMHO mean "in my humble opinion"usually use among newsgroups
|
| candie
Forum Newbie
Topics: 2
Posts: 11
|
something went wrong in sending the msg,actually it was :IMHO : is a typical online communication abbreviation used in emails and postings to newsgroups or BBS[bulletin board systems]
|
| Ewa
Forum Junior
Topics: 4
Posts: 48
|
I strongly support this point. I don't think that the moderators should be editing the posts, though. I think that we should stop using the silly abbreviations, because sometimes you can barely figure out what the author meant...
I noticed, that the majority of the posts containing tons of abbreviations such as yr, 4u and so on, are also written with pretty modest English skills I'd say, making them even harder to understand.
one abbreviation being repeatedly used in the wrong context is lol, it means "laughing out loud", and I've seen it used as the opposite, meaning "I'm sad"...
Moreover, I don't like seeing the word God written god.
|
| milee99
Forum Guru
Topics: 24
Posts: 636
|
The problem I face while writing proper English is not because i don't know but because i am not used to typing fast
and many a times there isn't much time to post and then check for mistakes
maybe if there is a grammar or spellcheck option while posting that should help
i would like to be corrected for wrong grammar and spellings if it does not compromise typing speed
that is just my opinion
___________________
Do not pray for easy lives,Pray to be stronger men; Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers, Pray for powers equal to your tasks; Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle.
|
| milee99
Forum Guru
Topics: 24
Posts: 636
|
Besides, British and American English spellings are different in some cases..
color/colour etc
can we import microsoft word for posting messages??
i am sorry i can't co-ordinate the shift key
so grammar mistakes there..
___________________
Do not pray for easy lives,Pray to be stronger men; Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers, Pray for powers equal to your tasks; Then the doing of your work shall be no miracle, but you shall be the miracle.
|
|
| |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
