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I wanted to know if there is something about this website that is causing all these great scores? Is this the ave score for fmg's, and if we don't score in that range how does it affect us?
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| silver
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Do you believe everything you read?
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| vicky_rocks
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Only 10-15% get 99 . most of the people get around 85 like that. So be brave. And also most people who put their scores in here may be bloughing us and themselves too.
In usa scores are not important. The other things like ur observships, research publications, etc are equally considered to scores
I know few poeple who have 79 and 77 scores and got residency with H1 because they have good USCE.
So work hard and all the best
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| wolverine9
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It's not that everyone get high scores, but obviously people who post their scores will be the ones that do exceptionally well...you won't see people getting 75's enthusiastically posting their scores.
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| deja_vu
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wolverine's point is the strongest reason for that. You are 99 times more likely to share your score if you get 99 compared to 75. otherwise 20% of all score 99. 99 is approx. mean+0.8SD means some 20% gets it.
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silver wrote:
Do you believe everything you read?
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| caduceus
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believe me..most of them bluff about the time they took for preparation....
for img 4 months r minimum required to prepare...
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| jazmil
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caduceus_indya wrote:believe me..most of them bluff about the time they took for preparation.... for img 4 months r minimum required to prepare...
Why 4 months? Why not 3 or 5? 
Some people came to this website, saw the abundance of 99s and rather than question everyone's honesty, they used the scores as a source of inspiration.
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| deja_vu
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No comment on preparation time.It's completely individualized matter. but I think most of 99s that are shared are genuine. Everyyear thousands of FMGs take USMLE and around 15-20% of them get 99. 99 is not a rarity.It's the commest two-digit score for USMLE. so it no surprise at all to see so many 99s. And 99ers are the ones who are likely to share even to unknown people also [that's what most of us are to one another]. Sharing success gives pleasure. There is no pleasure in bluffing for 99 when you actually dont have. It's a pain instead. Who would waste their time doing that.
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jazmil, It depends a lot on how you take others' 99 as a source of inspiration. somtimes what happens with people is that they pressurise themselves so much watching this abundance of 99s, believing that anything less than 99 is no good, it affects their preparation and performance adversely.
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| darkhorse
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There is no point in questioning others ability or achievement.....as deja_vu said....prep time is a individual thing......some people take a year or 2...some people take 2-3mo.....i think its more important to believe that if he can do it...than I can do it as well....GL!
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| deja_vu
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A friend of my took 2+2 months for step1+2 and scored 252 and 250. he's not the forum visitor by the way. And one of my friend is preparing step1 since 19months and he has not even taken the 3months block. preparation time depends on individual.
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| genbot
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Its true some people have great difficulty believing that some unknown guys are doing remarkably well, much better than what they're doin themselves, but then thats human nature. I for one dont think that guys here bluff their scores. Really they got nothin to gain from that, unless they live in some distorted delusioned world of their own.
But then on second thoughts...some of these guys might be tempted once in a while !!
Who really knows!
Some people might even have a solution to this problem; they say u can ask these guys to post their actual scorecards!! But I guess that would be a touch too paranoid!
Am I right dejavu ???
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| genbot
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About the prep time part...that would be totally individual...we've all got different capabilities and not all of us are ready to take the same amount of risk.
So prep time i feel really depends on a mixture of ur capabilities and ur ability to correctly gauge the risk benefit ratio of the actions u take; more specifically ur level of preparedness viza viz ur exam...hell that can be tough sometimes!!!
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| GOGETA
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wolverine9 wrote:
you won't see people getting 75's enthusiastically posting their scores.
Do you know who I'm?
and was 76 for the record 187 step one that is
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| deja_vu
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genbot,
Hee hee hee ..
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dejavu
u aint grinnin anymore bud, whats wrong?
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| genbot
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One more thing for the uninitiated; the usmle scores DO NOT follow a normal distribution! Some guys here seem to be propounding the idea of a certain score equalling a certain percentile using a mean and a standard deviation, but beware guys that can give u false percentiles....cause man this aint no normal distribution, far from it!
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I'm waiting for the one guy to come back and say "I got a 100. I recieved a personal phone call from the president of ECFMG, congradulating me on my score. Then Ed McMahon stopped by to give me my $10 million dollar reward."
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| wolverine9
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I really don't think people bluff about their scores are some people seem to be hinting. It doesn't make sense, you don't get anything by saying you got a 99 on a public forum if you didn't. But the people who do well are more inclined to share their success, and I don't have any problem with that. Seeing all these 99's should just be inspiration for people that they can get a great score are well.
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| img99/99/99
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genbot can you please explain if usmle score are not distributed normally than what kind of distribution is it? Why do score reports provide us with mean and SD? and according to you what percent of test-takers get 99?
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vicky_rocks wrote:
In usa scores are not important. The other things like ur observships, research publications, etc are equally considered to scores
I know few poeple who have 79 and 77 scores and got residency with H1 because they have good USCE.
So work hard and all the best
Are you sure that is true? I hope you are an AMG and you know what you are talking about and not giving all the gullible FMGs like myself false hopes. As far as I know everyone who is an FMG always stresses out so much about these USMLE Steps scores.
On the other hand it is true that I know an FMG with 99 on both steps who got only a preliminary in surgery - not categorical, and another FMG with scores in the mid 80s who got categorical - both guys at the same institution, however the one with the lower scores had done some research there for couple of years (plus some successful "brown nosing").
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Doc750 wrote:
I'm waiting for the one guy to come back and say "I got a 100. I recieved a personal phone call from the president of ECFMG, congradulating me on my score. Then Ed McMahon stopped by to give me my $10 million dollar reward."
Too Freaking Hilarious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| genbot
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ya the usmle scores are not normally distributed, i read this from the usmle site and a coupla other sites as well. Also if u see the graph for score distribution of usmle scores u'll see that its not a typically bell shaped curve of a normal distribution, its very lop sided, with heavy concentration of scores around the mean and tapers very quickly after a 3 digit score of around 250.
the mean and standard deviation that u get with ur score is a simple calculation they make which in no way implies that the scores are normally distributed. You can calculate these two statistics for any distribution normal or otherwise.
the catch here is that when u have a normal distribution u can use the mean and the standard deviation to calculate percentiles, which is absolutely not possible when the scores are not normally distributed.
It is difficult to estimate the exact percentage of exam takers gettin a 99 but if we assume that the scores immediately around the mean are relatively normally distributed and that people with 99s usually have scores about one standard deviation from the mean, then the best estimate is that around 16% of exam takers get a two digit score of 99. This is only an approximation and definitely not an exact number.
And as the three digit scores move farther away from the mean calculating percentiles becomes an even more hodge podge affair...so beware!!
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I agree with what deja vu has said. in the beginning of my studies i prob would of been happy just to pass and get it out of the way BUT after seeing all the 99ers posting, I now think my mere 88 is crap . and i think mentally this affects my current step 2 studying. you start to feel a little dissappointed.
Soooo Can EVERYONE STOP POSTING SCORE just write pass/fail j/k.......but it is very depressing
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