007
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Hi Folks,
Got an iv in nov end, got my step 3 in 1st wk of dec and may have a chance of an observership for 10 days in the same hosp as my iv, is it worth it or is it non productive at thi stage, also if it is worth it, should the observership be done before or after the iv
thanks in advance
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| prueba
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Maybe go before your interview, you will get to know the people and feel more confident on your interview day. You'll have better questions, and you'll know the program strengths. Make sure you are well prepared for your step 3 too.
Any experience is always worth it, and it's also an opportunity to make new contacts.
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| 007
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thanks very much
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| medmal
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Doing an observership at the hospital that you are interviewing can be a double edged sword....if the program staff gets the impression that you are not coming up to their expectations during the observership, that could affect your chances badly even if you perform extremely well during your interview, and also even if you screw up your interview, if you can show them that you are an extremely good candidate during your observership, they might still accept you....
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| prueba
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80% of success is showing up as woody allen would say....probably "he was suggesting that being there fully focused, giving your best effort and doing it on a consistent basis is the formula for success"
During an observership you are not expected to handle patients, and probably not much people will notice you, nevertheless you can say you have already been there, know the program, and you are convinced that you will love working there. If you don't feel confident about it don't go.....but in this game we MUST try our best...and be open to all the opportunities.
If you go, observe, try to present a case....study very hard about it the day before...and practice a presentation. don't annoy residents while they are working, ...smile...etc... not too much to do really.... Try to arrive first and leave last.
People who do rotations are more likely to get a position in the same program (I don't have any data of course...that's what I've heard).... you can also do it later...and change the course of their ranking too... lists are submitted in feb....
If you go after your interview ... you are coming more from outside, you already lost the opportunity of talking with attendings about what you know and whom you know, and about your experience at the porgram... if you go after you've been already there you are coming more from inside.... (I see it that way...kind of confusing...hehe)...
Making contacts is extremely helpful. A guy called Granovetter in the 70's demonstrated that about 56% of people who get jobs is through contacts.... and about 19% through the traditional route...
If you "screw up" anything either before, during or after ....chances are less on anything in this world...
whatever you decide try to be confident but humble.
Wish you the best dude.
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| 007
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cheers mate
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