Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/14/07 - 12:32 PM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
Which medication can cause new onset atrial fibrillation and hands tremor during the treatment of elderly patients with hyperthyroidism: 1.-propanolol 2.-iopanoic acid 3.-radiactive iodine 4.-Propylthiouracil (PTU) 5.-methimazol and what to do to avoid this complication?
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 10/14/07 - 12:59 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
1.-propanolol ??
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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/14/07 - 01:35 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
explain your answer please
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 10/14/07 - 04:07 PM  
 
   
 
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Well there is an escape phenomenon with propanolol. i had read it some where so i thought of it. I will also look it up.
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| Luckyall Forum Guru
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| | 10/14/07 - 04:47 PM  
 
   
 
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i think is Propranolol With chronic use of beta block.---> there is Rec upregulation--> it means more beta Rec. ready to be activated by circulating CA---> mugged stimulation of heart--> excessive CVS effects such cardiac arrythm.& sudden cardiac death
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| Luckyall Forum Guru
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| | 10/14/07 - 04:50 PM  
 
   
 
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and wht to do to avoid? just gradually lower the dose ( taper dose) to avoid these rebound effects of endogenous CA
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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/14/07 - 05:10 PM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
can it cause hands tremor too?
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 10/14/07 - 07:46 PM  
 
   
 
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2.-iopanoic acid Found it. There is a definite escape phenomenon with Iodine and its products in Hyperthyroid pts. (Emedicine).
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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/14/07 - 08:22 PM  
 
   
 
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| hanialkhadher Forum Elite

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| | 10/14/07 - 08:50 PM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
Well i am not sure if it is applicable here but i think it may be something like Jod-Basedow disease. so i will go with: Iopanoic acid 
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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/14/07 - 09:41 PM  
 
   
 
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But iopanoid acid(telepaque) is a contrast medium used for diagnosis not in the treatment of hyperthyroidism in the elderly and ultimately it doesn't exacerbate the hyperthyroid state.
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| new_n_lost Forum Hero

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| | 10/15/07 - 01:09 AM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
Plz go thru this http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic1109.htm#sectio...
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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/15/07 - 10:39 AM  
 
   
 
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I read the article but it say that treatment is not available in united states. Don't look for the zebra, the horse is in there .
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| hanialkhadher Forum Elite

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| | 10/15/07 - 02:54 PM  
 
   
 
|   #14 |
3.-radiactive iodine

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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/15/07 - 04:07 PM  
 
   
 
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RADIACTIVE IODINE(I-131) is taken up by thyroid follicular cells and then destroy them by emitting beta radiation rays. While this effectively treats hyperthyroidism in the long term, dying thyroid cells release excess thyroid hormone into the circulation, which can temporarly aggravate the hyperthyroid state. Thyrotoxicosis likely explain the new onset of Afib in this patient. How to avoid this complication? It is recommended to pre-treat the patient with medications like methimazol to deplete thyroid hormone stores before beginning I-131. UW q#2352
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| hanialkhadher Forum Elite

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| | 10/15/07 - 05:22 PM  
 
   
 
|   #16 |
Thanks Ivonne for this important concept and also for your kind rapid reply
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| | 10/15/07 - 05:26 PM  
 
   
 
|   #17 |
thanks ivonne... so this is only in elderly patients we give methimazole before radioactive iodine??? cuz in United States drug of choice for hyperthyroidism is ---RADIOACTIVE IODINE right??? alternative PTU or methimazole
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| Ivonne Find a way or make one

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| | 10/15/07 - 05:48 PM  
 
   
 
|   #18 |
Yes, neuro I-131 is the treatment of choice in US for hyperthyroidism. Most common side effects : hypothyroidism, the one discussed previously in the elderly and exacerbation of opthalmopathy. Tha last one can be prevented with high corticosteroids. UW said that young patient free of cardiovascular problems tolerate I-131 without problems.
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| | 10/15/07 - 05:53 PM  
 
   
 
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THANKS BUDDY for clearing the concept..  
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