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FA will make sure you get the easy questions right.
If you know very good FA, at the end of the test you will say it help me a little, but if did not knew it very well and start going over FA you notice all those questions you got wrong just because you did not knew that information inside the FA.
FA is like a flascard just go over and over to remember the topics they ask.
Fo pharma is enough
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| youngone
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Gogeta my friend! thanks for the wisdom.
I have a question for people who have used Webpath (which you suggested  )
What is the best way to utilize it? I am 2 months from my test and have time on my
side.
Webpath has varios options and was wondering what is the best way to use it
as a learning instrument.
Thanks again.
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| youngone
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Also, what subjects are the weakest in Kaplan (besides Path, got Papi for that!) ?
Is the genetics and inmuno any good?
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| trypeony555
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Hi Gogeta, I just want to ask you how you manage the time to do the step while you work fulltime? How long you took for your step1 and how you balance the fulltime work and study? thanks!!
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| unique1
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Thank you gogeta and Paheli, for your valuable input.
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| GOGETA
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Trypeony555
Is really really hard, the thing is to at least read something everyday, in my job they just gave me the !@#$^%&*() when they found out I was preparing for the test.
You can go and read my long boring, dramaqueen, cry for help journal for step1.
Inside you will find from tie to time very good advise and the things I went true.
Is very hard but doable, the thing is to at least read SOMETHING everyday and be in toip of things.
Young one
When you are going over a system review lets say Respiratory, go and at least do the questions they have they are kinjd of easy compare to the test but they have very good concepts to know. Then you can just go over a couple of the X rays they have for the Respiratory system and Ct. that will solidify what you hear and read when you actually see the picture, and is not so much time consuming as you might think.
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| maoudoody
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r kaplan notes enough?
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| youngone
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Thank you Gogeta! I read in another post that Kaplan might not be enough...
What do you suggest?
sorry for bothering so much.
Your the best!
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| GOGETA
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I have not read that thread yet, clasically people have been able to pass using kaplan notes.
Now kaplan is not good in all disiplines.
The behavior sciense is really good.
The bioch. is also really good.
One thig you guys need to know is tanner stages of breast, I only knew what was that when I took the test , so please read that, better yet learn that. Besides also in step2 you need to know about it.
Now let me ask in step2ck forum , As you see I also ask stuff
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| maoudoody
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Now kaplan is not good in all disiplines
so wat to use now GOGETA?
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maoudoody wrote:
Now kaplan is not good in all disiplines
so wat to use now GOGETA?
Sorry fo9r the wait
Behavior science
Micro/inmuno
Bioch.
I think was cover prety well in the kaplan books
Physio is TOOOO Loooooong.
For pathology you may use BRS or Goljan
For Physio BRS
For Neuro HY from FIX
And UWUWUWUWUWUWUWUW then when you have UNDERSTAND UW.
Remember to take an NBME to see where you are in the process.
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| GOGETA
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I heard the fisher ethics book is really good, but I DID NOT USE IT, so can't give an objective point of view, only what people say to me or what I read.
UW I use and I strongly recomend it, Me passing this test was in big part because of this forum and UW.
Ps I do not work for UW, but I will not mind if they hired me
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| maoudoody
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thnx gogeta
hope u do well in ck also
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| GOGETA
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thanks
who else will like to ask?
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| youngone
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Did you study cell biology ?
From where?
Heard it sneeks up on ya.
I was recommended hy cell.
Just wanted to know what you used.
What are the essentials in anatomy ???
What should I know, not just where to study it from.
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| starbrite520
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hi gogeta, thanks so much for offering an aiding hand to us. its really really appreciated.
i had a quick question, i posted it in the forums but no one is replying
i was just wondering.. when people have taken the step 1, and used qbank, or UW for preparation, did they do each test or qusetion only once,,, or several times to get comfortable.
because in my experience i have been doing the same test once or twice-and the first time i get a embaressing 40-then the 2nd tmie i get a 70ish, and eventually a 90 in that test. the improvement for me is from adding notes from UW into my notes, reading the explanations, and a little bit of a photographic memory.
i am just worried, that when i am ready for my exam, and i say, oh my UW avg was say 80%, it was just because i practiced the same stuff so much. and maybe those that say their average was so and so, it was their FIRST and LAST time doing UW. as in their first attempt =final score.
i know it shouldnt matter, regardless, and its just goo dthat i am improving. but i am scared that i am not really improving, and i am just on a crutch, with doing same familar questoins over and over, and i am not honestly assessing myself-so please tell me .
but i sort of ralized that if i spend so much time on UW, i will be used to their little tricks and puzzles, so the more i do UW, the easier i can spot the trick, and am ready for USMle's test tricks as well.
also... is UW subject/organ break up accurate for step 1. as in i noticed they have maybe 40 questions for renal pathology, versus 100 for cardiology. is that accurate to say renal is not as high yield as cvs. i know that is true, but i am just sort of asking if that is true for all cases. like derma is barely tested on UW, either is git, or endo, or renal. whereas most of my time is spen ton cvs, and pulm and cns.
thank you again so very much
gluck with ur studies, and very big kudos for also maintaining a part time job. is this job medicine based, or on the side .
thanks again
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| starbrite520
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hey youngone, i know you are not asking me, so i hope you dont mind me interfering. a few of my friends who have taken the test, say that cell biology sneaks up on u. it is randomly thrown in quite a bit. and i think it is just good to know because it makes sense for histo, and patho slides right?!
i recommend HY cell bio, but do only what is needed. flip through it fast. HY is a great series but tends to go on n on, sort of like me
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| iwant99
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I have noticed that many recommend doing the Kaplan books and then FA and Qbank/UW. My question is....do I have enough time for this?
I am a M2 in US. We usually take like a month after the end of semester (meaning in JUNE 08) and then take Step1. Of course, I will be studying for it during the semester as well (i would like to start now..) What is your advice? (Find time to do Kaplan books, FA and UW? or is there any other option?)
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| youngone
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Hey starbrite! No interfering! Thanks for the great advice! I'm reading up on it
as we speak. Its harder than most everything else! lol! Long time since I've seen
half these things.
8 weeks to go!
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| jodin
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Gogeta, how r u?
Well .. i wan na ask about the Cds of step 1 ( i mean the DVDs , ) what r the topics that i won't benefit from listening or seeing it, plus, is Kaplan notes,Qbank,Qbook and First aid enough for the exam or not?
And if i wanna pass with a full time job, can i do it in 7 months, please reply gogetta iam in a rush of time and my mind is spoilt from step 2 CK.
Thanks and hope tp read ur reply
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| starbrite520
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regarding Fa,
i have mixed thoughts
i think it is poorly written, very unorganized. however, it can sum up a subject quite nicely, with not too much missing, i spent a while agonizing and comparing, and felt not much was lost compared to kaplan, however patho is another story!
i think that fa is a good idea to finally cram in, refresh and review. i just wish it was prop0erly written, that the authors spent less time teaching us about how a podetrist test differs from the step 1, and foreign medical grads, etc etc, and how other books rate,, and just increased making their material CLEARER.
a timely fashion, some extra titles, would be great.
i think all that info on the test itself, as well as what rated review books were, should be on a website, thats all. and we get one line telling us what link that is.
i spent a lot of time, wasted, trying to decrypt what FA was saying. and used other books as escapes. i just feel that if FA was clearer to begin with, we would use that source from the beginning to the end, with other books as extra knowledge, not as our lifegaurds when FA gets muddy clear.
I have not taken the exam yet, so i have no clue if FA is a textbook or an index per se. however, i have compared it to sources such as biochem , physio, micro from kaplan, and it is the same stuff, just less notes, with maybe 15% less info.
however, it makes me breathe easier having 600 pages to revise, with all my own notes crammed in, rather than all 7 sets of kaplan again
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| GOGETA
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Hey guys sorry for the delay, yes I know some of you miss me, wile others were very happy that I was not around, but that is ok.
I have been a little busy
Startbrite520
People have the tendency to repeat the question bank when they have finished with them. When you finish UW do it again so the concepts are more clear.
but i sort of ralized that if i spend so much time on UW, i will be used to their little tricks and puzzles, so the more i do UW, the easier i can spot the trick, and am ready for USMle's test tricks as well.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, How do you think I was able to pass my test, in big part because of them, and learning the tricks.
If you are able to learn the tricks to learn the material, to spot the correct answer and to THINK the same way the people that make questions you are in your way of PASSING THE TEST.
UW have the tendency to give you the material you need and maybe a little more.
In renal you might think is not enough, but when I use it this year they only had like 80 questions for the renal system and men those questions were right on the spot of what I need it to know. I was very high in renal in my test.
i think that fa is a good idea to finally cram in, refresh and review. specially review and keep things fresh in your head.
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jodin wrote:
Gogeta, how r u?
Well .. i wan na ask about the Cds of step 1 ( i mean the DVDs , ) what r the topics that i won't benefit from listening or seeing it, plus, is Kaplan notes,Qbank,Qbook and First aid enough for the exam or not?
And if i wanna pass with a full time job, can i do it in 7 months, please reply gogetta iam in a rush of time and my mind is spoilt from step 2 CK.
Thanks and hope tp read ur reply
At the moment I'm again going over the same situation fulltime job and almost no time to study.
If you PASS step2 ck that is going to help you with the clinical cases and some othe stuff in step1.
For pathology use Goljan
For physio you can use kaplan or BRS CONSTANZO is quicker and to the point and if you still do no understand then you go to the kaplan book.
USE golajn lecture
7 months I think you can do it.
Try to do everyday at least 4 hours and no not straight hours you will get tired sleepy.
you work, rest go to your house in do a couple of classes then rest eat and then go back to study.
This is my reason people you hear that they study 12-16 hours a day well you can BUT you are working nd the trick is to balance work and study so you keep your work and keep progressing because if not you wil crash in one of them.
So this is how it goes ok
Everyday go over the book read the chapters and then go over the class, then do questions related to that.
in 5 months from now you will be able to take NBME4 first to see where you are then prepare yourself more and take another NBME 4-5 week later to see your progress.
You need to do it little by little with time you will be able to put more hours, some days yo will only be able to do 1 hour but at least EVERYDAY you must read or hear something.
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youngone wrote:
Did you study cell biology ?
From where?
Heard it sneeks up on ya.
I was recommended hy cell.
Just wanted to know what you used.
What are the essentials in anatomy ???
What should I know, not just where to study it from.
Thanks G!
1-I did not prepare well for that part  , also my university did not prepare me, for that meaning that ALL of that was first time to me, and I just dedicated more time to the other things.
So honestlly I can not give you a good advise about cell biology, also in my test I had an asterisk on that in the lower area if I had at least close to boderline my grade were been at least 8 points higher.
Anatomy everything that has a clinical relation, the general concept like the pleural space is created by which pleura? or for example what nerve will go over the heart. this are just made up questions not test questions.
also the function of the structre what will happen if you do not have that? or what muscle I need to do that.
images like always to identify and the classics
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did I miss any question?
Am I at least helping a little or at least giving a little light?
Remember I will tell you my humble point of view and if I think Im not able to give you the proper advise I will say it.
good luck on your studies everyone so go pass the test and make me some company in step2ck forum
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