peekay Forum Guru
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| | 03/19/04 - 08:22 PM  
 
   
 
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MHC-I a-found on all nucleated cells. b-three gene loci(HLA A,B,C) c-antigens are identified by HLAantibodies c-present ag to CD8+ cells MHC-II a- found on immunologic effectors cellls(macrophages.B cells,activated epis) b-three gene loci(HLA DP,DQ,DR) c-antigens are identified by cellular reactions c-present ag to CD+cells
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| Quinn Forum Elite
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| | 03/20/04 - 05:42 PM  
 
   
 
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Right, but there is more.... How is each bound to antigen and presented on the cell surface? Where is the antigen bound? Note that the MHC I is found on platelets. Also, both have codominate expression...i.e. your cells express HLA-A, HLA-B, and HLA-C inherited from both your mom and dad. Which one is down regulated in HIV? How? Which one has gene loci that are associated with Type I Diabetes? Hemochromatosis?
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| peekay Forum Guru
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| | 03/20/04 - 06:13 PM  
 
   
 
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you are right. i forgot about their chemical coposition.if u could add that D.M is assoiated with MHCII.
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| jayesh Forum Junior
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| | 03/20/04 - 07:04 PM  
 
   
 
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in addition to above, MHC-1 bind with endogenous peptides has beta-2 microglobulin no invariant chain is down regulated by HIV (nef) MHC-2 bind with processed exogenous peptides no beta 2 microglobilin has invariant chain also asso with DM
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| Quinn Forum Elite
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| | 03/20/04 - 07:08 PM  
 
   
 
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Nicely done Jayesh Hemochromatosis is assoc. with HLA-A Specifically type I DM is HLA-DQ -DR3 and -DR4 Nice
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| usmleasr Forum Guru
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| | 03/20/04 - 08:25 PM  
 
   
 
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hey nice discussion..what MHC DR-2,DR-3 ASSOCIATED WITH?
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| asmi Forum Hero
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| | 03/20/04 - 08:32 PM  
 
   
 
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DR2 for multiple sclerosis and DR3 for type I diabetis
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| Gul Forum Elite
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| | 03/20/04 - 08:51 PM  
 
   
 
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Rh. arthritis HLA DR4 Hashimoto's Thyroiditis HLADR5 Celiac HLAB8
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| jay1 Forum Junior
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| | 03/20/04 - 10:23 PM  
 
   
 
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This is a nice discussion.I found all this info at one place .....in Kaplan's Immunology Notes! So, it means Kaplan's Notes are a good source for this relatively new subject ? I am asking this because i read different reviews about immunology! Thanks
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| asmi Forum Hero
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| | 03/20/04 - 10:29 PM  
 
   
 
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hemochromatosis..with HLA-A3 celiac disease..HLA-B8 and DR3
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| Quinn Forum Elite
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| | 03/21/04 - 10:40 AM  
 
   
 
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Your are right asmi....hemochromatosis is HLA-A3...i left off the "3" Here is a list of the HLA's that I know of -DR2 .....Multiple Sclerosis, Hay Fever, Goodpastures, Narcolepsy -DR3......Type I DM (also -DQ & -DR) , SLE, Celiac Sprue (also -B8 & -DQ) -DR4......Type I DM, Pemphigus Vulgaris, Temporal Artiritis, Lyme Disease Rhematoid Arthritis -DR5......Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis, Pernious Anemia, Hashimoto's -DR7......Steroid Responsive Nephroitc Syndrome -B27.......Ulcerative Colitis, Psoriasis, Ankylosing spondylitis, Inflammatory bowel Ds, Reiter's syndrome -A3.........Hemochromatosis
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| jayesh Forum Junior
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| | 03/21/04 - 10:48 AM  
 
   
 
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thanx Quinn now its easy to remember
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| asmi Forum Hero
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| | 03/21/04 - 11:51 AM  
 
   
 
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thanks quinn
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| Quinn Forum Elite
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| | 03/24/04 - 02:33 PM  
 
   
 
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Thanks guys (peekay, jayesh, asmi etc)....really enjoyed the exchange.....definately have to do again. :lol:
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| mdwannabe Forum Guru
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| | 04/01/04 - 08:44 PM  
 
   
 
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DR2 protective in DM 1
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| mdwannabe Forum Guru
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| | 04/01/04 - 08:47 PM  
 
   
 
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also MHC I is a ligand for KIR on NK cells
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