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Hmmmmm, you mean I might have to do a report and report back???
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| drgeorgie
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 yes please....just a guess...how many 99/99 did u see...and how many 95+? an approx guess
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| kingsofke
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please bbb we are highly curious. give us a rough figure or a percentage.
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| prueba
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I am also very interested.... thanks if possible bbb.
just a guess: mine is 5-10% of IMGs
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| rockingdoctor
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I'm sure 40-50% of IMGs have 99x2
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| atifrahman
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This will be very interesting
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| robin082006
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I assume it is less than 0.5%
See:
LESS than 1% of USMLEers got double 99.
Then they applied to various programs and specialties.
They also reject IVs to some programs.
Double 99ers are very few.
You see lots of double 99ers in any USMLE forum because they are happy to show off, or fake.
Do not worry my friends.
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| CocaCola
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I assume the majority of people in this match forum have already sat for their steps1/ 2... therefore its really amazing to me that so many are obsessed with 99/99...
my obstacle right now isnt deciphering who has 99 but trying to get a PC or PD to notice my application and give me an interview date... i dont have double 99s and there isnt anything i can do about it now!
if 99s were increasing so much that almost 50% of IMG's get a 99, then you better believe USMLE passing scores would have increased alot more than it has...
someone sent a link to a document with some stats for AMG and IMG applying for the 2007 match... the average three digit for IMG is 209 for step1 and 210 for step2... so 99 is difinately not the norm!
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| sarika
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Hey cocacola where are u my friend...u must be really busy....hmmmmm
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| bbb
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This first list is the Step 1 scores
173
177 1
179 1
182 19
183 12
184 15
185 23
186 15
187 7
188 17
189 15
190 21
191 22
192 15
193 22
194 19
195 24
196 24
197 27
198 26
199 33
200 18
201 22
202 27
203 25
204 18
205 39
206 26
207 25
208 26
209 35
210 33
211 40
212 30
213 32
214 51
215 46
216 34
217 28
218 33
219 31
220 36
221 35
222 40
223 30
224 58
225 35
226 38
227 45
228 37
229 44
230 45
231 50
232 50
233 29
234 29
235 31
236 41
237 33
238 34
239 34
240 29
241 28
242 24
243 25
244 20
245 24
246 25
247 25
248 19
249 18
250 13
251 10
252 11
253 8
254 13
255 10
256 13
257 7
258 4
259 5
260 3
261 5
262 3
263 5
264 2
265 1
266 1
267 2
268 1
272 1
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Here are Step 2 CK scores:
USMLE Step 2 CK Score Frequency
375
153 1
161 1
163 2
166 1
170 1
173 2
175 2
176 1
177 2
179 1
180 2
181 4
182 6
183 16
184 14
185 10
186 15
187 11
188 13
189 11
190 18
191 15
192 18
193 13
194 15
195 15
196 19
197 17
198 27
199 21
200 19
201 22
202 20
203 27
204 21
205 26
206 20
207 21
208 26
209 25
210 36
211 21
212 29
213 27
214 35
215 24
216 39
217 27
218 30
219 33
220 18
221 18
222 33
223 38
224 42
225 28
226 33
227 37
228 33
229 29
230 35
231 40
232 30
233 26
234 32
235 28
236 25
237 27
238 45
239 27
240 40
241 25
242 16
243 23
244 31
245 22
246 26
247 25
248 21
249 13
250 17
251 20
252 15
253 22
254 19
255 19
256 15
257 12
258 10
259 12
260 5
261 3
262 3
263 8
264 6
265 6
266 5
267 2
268 1
269 5
270 1
271 1
273 1
274 1
276 3
277 1
278 2
280 1
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CocaCola wrote:
someone sent a link to a document with some stats for AMG and IMG applying for the 2007 match... the average three digit for IMG is 209 for step1 and 210 for step2... so 99 is difinately not the norm!
Yes, you are right and that average score you got is of the people who applied to the match. That average does not consider the people who have failed the tests horrendously and from people who did not apply to the match. I have seen a couple of 140s in my life and these scores will drag the mean down the drift a lot.. But there are many 260s that are legit as you can see in the same report (There are a few of them but they do exist)...
Regards
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| residency08
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Hi bbb,
Thanks a million. U R a darling !!!
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| mazinger
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Dear bbb
The score freq you just reported is from what pool of people? amgs, imgs, or both?
thx
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oh my gosh. bbb, you are an angel. i cant believe you actually did the research for us nervous wrecks!!!! a perfect bell curve you got for both steps! i know scores are important but i am not stressing over them, maybe cos i had 94/94 but truth is i got 'more' important things to stress over like my nearly 20yrs since grad. even if i had 99/99 i wonder if it would make a difference!!!
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| bbb
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mazinger wrote:
Dear bbb
The score freq you just reported is from what pool of people? amgs, imgs, or both?
thx
Medical School Type Frequency
<5th Pathway> 1
U.S. Public School 70
U.S. Private School 27
International School 2167
Osteopathic School 14
Mazinger - this is from all my applicants, both Prelim and categorical tracks.
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tolito wrote:
oh my gosh. bbb, you are an angel. i cant believe you actually did the research for us nervous wrecks!!!! a perfect bell curve you got for both steps! i know scores are important but i am not stressing over them, maybe cos i had 94/94 but truth is i got 'more' important things to stress over like my nearly 20yrs since grad. even if i had 99/99 i wonder if it would make a difference!!!
Ahhhh - but is that a 240/99 or a 273/99??
p.s. Here are the numbers, someone else can do the percentages because math will make my brain bleed. I tried to do a graph, but the numbers were so small that it was impossible to read once I turned it into a PDF
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| sarika
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bbb you are just awesome! If i had a picture of you, "Orlando Bloom" would have been replaced.
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| CocaCola
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BBB you are truly good for the soul... you know when to soothe us, when to work for us, and when to say enough
Sarika i am still around... just not as much as i was before and mostly during the morning when i can get some time to myself... going through a lot lately... hence the late application
decided to stop worrying about the world and take some time to enjoy it... so not letting stress get to me anymore... besides the new season of the Avatar is starting this weekend... i love that cartoon!
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| prueba
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for Step 1 (applicants to bbb's program):
If 99 considered > 244 (last year criteria).....then 249 / 2279 = 10.9% (including all applicants)
if 99 considered > 238 (this year criteria).....then 423 / 2279 = 18.6% (including all applicants)
Of course the list does not include people who did not pass the test...so it is a bit skewed to the right (meaning mode < median < mean) We also don't know bbb's program criteria ....for example it would be skewed more to the right if the program criteria is >85 vs. >80 vs. passing score. considering applicants applied just to programs were they met the criteria (altough unlikely)
thanks bbb. very interesting.
Edited by prueba on 09/20/07 - 01:52 PM
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| bbb
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prueba wrote:
for Step 1 (applicants to bbb's program):
If 99 considered > 244 (last year criteria).....then 249 / 2279 = 10.9% (including all applicants)
if 99 considered > 238 (this year criteria).....then 423 / 2279 = 18.6% (including all applicants)
Of course the list does not include people who did not pass the test...so it is a bit skewed to the right (meaning mode < median < mean) We also don't know bbb's program criteria ....for example it would be skewed more to the right if the program criteria is >85 vs. >80 vs. passing score. considering applicants applied just to programs were they met the criteria (altough unlikely)
thanks bbb. very interesting.
Thank you for doing the math. I hate math. Always did. And I could still get last years numbers if it was really needed......
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| crazydr
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BBB,
Your are awesome.Tx's a million. Well done preuba. amazed with your statistics.
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| the_holy_man
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bbb wrote:
Thank you for doing the math. I hate math. Always did. And I could still get last years numbers if it was really needed......
Thanks bbb!! last years stats would be very useful too!! and what about step 3 scores?
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