ujaala
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hey every1!
i wonder why no 1 is getting IV calls in psych,,, although ppl say tht psych is ezier to match ...is it so tht psych ppl take more time to review applications????
puchpal check ur PMs i sent u my email address,,, btw u cud also send me a PM to tell me wht u wanted to discuss
best of luck every1
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| mrbean
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ujaala wrote:
hey every1!
i wonder why no 1 is getting IV calls in psych,,, although ppl say tht psych is ezier to match ...is it so tht psych ppl take more time to review applications????
puchpal check ur PMs i sent u my email address,,, btw u cud also send me a PM to tell me wht u wanted to discuss
best of luck every1
I have thought about this topic a lot & here is what I think….. there are some assumptions in my theory…. So let me know what u guys think.
The general assumption that psych is easier is wrong…. My opinion on this is that scores r important in psych but probably not as relevant as in IM or some of the other fields. Cos I know for a fact that in IM the first filter that they put for FMGs needing visa is score, so if u don’t have both scores above 85 & also step 3 cleared….. u r going to have a hard time in the current market…. as seen in 2006, 2007 match.
Psych experience is extremely important be it here or abroad. UR recommendations are also every critical…. I mean someone that was doing obgyn back home… suddenly wants to go into psych cos they got low scores is going to find it difficult unless they can prove without a reasonable doubt that the former is not true… this can be done by observership & externship (which r not that easy to get).
So for psych PDs & coordinators….. it is tough to weed out the fake pretenders from the real candidates….. hence it takes more time.
I state the above with no disrespect to im, obgyn or any other field.
Edited by mrbean on 10/03/07 - 02:20 PM
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| newyg
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I dont agree, I think what u say is overthought... If you check out SDN, IVs are coming and they are coming hard.. My only assumption is that Psych is getting more and more competitive everyyear that more AMGs with better credentials are applying for it.
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| nervous wreck
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got my first interview from wayne state uni ...no other rejections or interviews yet!!!
and thanks sarika.
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| nadiabarati
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I applied to psychiatry, only. 58 programs.
I just got 3 rejections from Emory, wayne state and Mayo (Rochester)
my credentials are 92/96/ Cs awaiting/ GC holder
Psychiatry is not easy at all. My friends are getting interviews in IM.
congratualtions to ujala, study-ing, nervous wreck and all other who got interviews.
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| nervous wreck
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hey nadia barati..i got rejected from emory and yale..your credentials are way better than mine..ull definitely get an interview..ive applied to only 35 psych programs in the east side due to location restrictions..
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| cupidpluto
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Hi friends there is truth in Mrbeans saying, Psych ppl look at the application as a whole, thy want the residents to have genuine Psyc interest which some % of Psych applicants dont have, becuz Psych is unique, u should put ur mental labouring to get n history, to do counseling, dif means of Psychotherapy, and its a personality issue where one cant assess by just looking at ur application so u expect a slow call form them.
I have 5 yrs Psych experience got rejected from Emory, Colorodo, vanderbilt,Cleveland
becuz of AMG applied and ofcourse thy should deserve the first seat
Psych is getting importance and more competetive
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| puchpal
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i really was a silent observer for these days
after reading all this wanted to have a discussion
but with only one interview , im left with no energy
so just to say "HI" to you all.
p.s ujala , maine mail kar diya hai aapko
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| mrbean
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Guys let me tell you my friend’s story from the ‘07 match…… he did an observership in psych & got an LOR. The LOR praised the fact that the candidate was blalalalalalalala…. usual stuff… but not a whole lot reference to psych…..
Now psych was his backup. He did get 2 interviews in psych. One of the PD before the interview called the LOR writer & LOR writer told the pd point blank that this person has no interest in psych, as u can imagine the interview was a horror show….. pd’s exact word…. & I quote “Y do u waste ur time & money And more importantly our time & money”
A word to the wise & seasoned…. If ur intensions are to fake it till they make it…..good luck my friend u r dealing with ppl that deal with the mind.
+ my own thoughts on this subject are that psych is a different life style choice, so unless u love psych, I am not sure if u would be happy with ur professional life/choice… as “cupidpluto” said it well “Psych is unique, u should put ur mental labouring to get n history, to do counseling, dif means of Psychotherapy, and its a personality issue”
BTW… this story does have a happy ending…. My friend had a GC & matched @ a community FM program & is HAPPY.
goodnight & good luck!!!
Edited by mrbean on 10/03/07 - 09:08 PM
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| ujaala
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yes u r so right, psych ppl look at the application as a whole, they r trying to figure out whether the applicant has sincere interest or is applying to psych as a backup only....may be they r also reading our personal statements to figure out whether we have genuine interest in psychiatry,,, good luck to all of u!
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| newyg
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I can see that most of us are still giving their battle inside to justify their choice of psychiatry... I'm one of those, though I've only applied for psych residencies I'm still not sure where my choice will lead me to. Every decision that a human makes has a basal level of anxiety that it brings with it, I had the same anxiety a year or so before when I decided then to go for ophthalmology. Now that I'm going for psych, I have that good ol' worm crawling inside my mind, asking me Qs and judging my decision.
There are many criteria that a medical student can put emphasis on when deciding for his perfect match. Unfortunately, after 6 to 8 years of medical school life and this time being called a lost time of youth, many prefer money and life style over any other criteria. I'm not afraid of saying the life style of a psychiatrist has been a great input to my decision, because it did! Yeah I enjoy listening to people and yeah I'd love to deal with the most unique cases of medicine but besides those I should admit life style and a much more modifiable career has been greater.
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| newyg
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They say Psychiatry has a low "reputation" in the field of medicine.. What is reputation?? Who sets the criteria for it?? Reputation, my friends, is the good old benjamin franklins(100dollar bills) that you earn by the end of the day. You earn more then people respect you and your field more.
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| mrbean
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newyg wrote:
They say Psychiatry has a low "reputation" in the field of medicine.. What is reputation?? Who sets the criteria for it?? Reputation, my friends, is the good old benjamin franklins(100dollar bills) that you earn by the end of the day. You earn more then people respect you and your field more.
WORD!!!
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| chiqui
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Personally, I love psychiatry. I think its fascinating. The trend in psychiatry is definitely towards organic causes, and neuropsych is hot, hot, hot. There are different ways of practicing psych after residency. If you like ERs, you can work the psych ER, where you treat the acutely ill. If you like long-term management, you can work in an inpatient unit, where you develop relationships with the chronically ill. If you like personality disorders and moderate illness, there is private practice. You like kids - child psych. You like legal issues - forensic psych. You like neuro - neuropsych. I think most people don't know enough about current trends in psychiatry to understand that it really is medicine and not psychology with drugs.
Puchpal - you make me laugh. My daughter loves your monkey avitar. Don't be discouraged. Who knows - that one interview may be the key that opens the door to the rest of your life. It just takes one. But its still early, and there is more where that came from!
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| cupidpluto
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Thanx Chiqi for ur message, u cleared our mind, tell this to the PD in ur interview, Uni who do not give pre match usually may change their mind to ive u oe spot
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| puchpal
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Guys if you want i will start one more thread
and actuall im doing it, where at least i may know why am i the only one having 'one" interview.
Chiqui im happy that im making people laugh atleast.
now this thing is really really taking on my nerves
pleaseguys if there s somebody who applied last year can please tell me if this is the end of the road.
guys this pal of yours is really freaking out.
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| chiqui
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Puchpal - it can't be the end of the road. You said it yourself a few pages back - everything is OK in the end. If its not OK, its not the end. Hang in there. Things have a mysteroius way of working out just the way they are supposed to.
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| cupidpluto
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this week is dry for me, I heard some of guys got interview from Uni of Buffalo
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| nadiabarati
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I don't have any IV and just three rejections. So puchpal be happy for that one IV where I got rejection from, waynesate, MI.
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| vancomycin
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dry dry week
no iv
no rejection for me
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| newyg
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Same here.. nothing this week although I was expecting IVs since my 3LORS have just been to ERAS by the last week of September... I thought I would have a boost of IVs this week... what a delusion 
AMGs get IV calls this week, I dont get it, so the PDs move together? Do they communicate? Do they have a gentlemen's agreement to go for AMGs and IMGs at specific dates?? I dont get it...
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| mrbean
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newyg wrote:Same here.. nothing this week although I was expecting IVs since my 3LORS have just been to ERAS by the last week of September... I thought I would have a boost of IVs this week... what a delusion AMGs get IV calls this week, I dont get it, so the PDs move together? Do they communicate? Do they have a gentlemen's agreement to go for AMGs and IMGs at specific dates?? I dont get it...
What’s there to get???!!!
The sooner u stop getting frustrated about AMGs getting interviews & not u…. the better it would be for ur health.
WE R NOT IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS THEM!!!!
If I graduated med school from here & than found out that FMGs were being considered for interviews first…. I would be mad.
So I think it is fair that they are considered first.
+ it’s a long road, be patient. Its not even nov….. things will move faster after the deans latter are released.
Good luck
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| newyg
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You got me wrong mrbean.. I meant to say how would PDs stop calling IMGs at the same time and then start calling them back at another time.. for instance this week, I havent heard of any of them, and many other IMGs either. It just feels funny as if they have an agreement to send IMG invites at specific weeks... I'm sure 2nd and 3rd week of October will be busy for us, IMGs, because it always has been this way previous years.
I'm not frustrated at all about AMGs getting IVs and I'm not... Of course they and their families are the tax-givers so they deserve the priority for education that their tax money supplies to US.
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