sarika
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Very interesting information.
An IM program in NY, st barnabas have started sending invites. What interesting to note is all the invitees are in upper 90's, fresher grads, with some USCE AND VERY IMPORTANTLY ARE NOT US CITIZENS OR GC HOLDERS.
So it means they are inviting the CREAM, will entice them with PREMATCHES early. Since GC and citizens dont have that visa prob, they did not even invite them even if the credentials were similar . Very clever!
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| babydoc4usmle
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what is the logic of it?
as you said, all these people will need visas, so it creates additional hastle....i am not following
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| kingsofke
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yeah they have been notorious for that.
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| sarika
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hey babydoc,
what i think their logic is and its just an analysis, they know people with GC or Citizenship might not be that desperate and wont consider their prematch that seriously. What they might be doing is interviewing the best of candidates who need visa, offer prematch early in the game. By doing that they will increase their`programs brad passing rate.
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| azygous
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and from the list last year they had unfilled positions..so you guess..
it is one of the notrious programs in NY,,,there is a lot of talk abu the famous five bad programs in NYC...
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| gazzar
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sarika
good analysis , makes every sense..
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| CocaCola
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hey can someone enlighten me about the famous 5 bad programs in NYC...
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| arizona_wave
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Hmmmmm......very interesting and good to know . Thanx saika, very helpful info and hope we all can post this kind of info if we come acorss any more.
Azygous u mentioned the famous 5 NY prog !! ...... Can u give us an idea which ones are those?
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| robin082006
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iNTERESTING,
They prefer VIsa than GC and citizen.
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| babydoc4usmle
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thanks for the insight, sarika
well, it does make sense, i guess...
but what i was thinking is, there is another St.Barnabas, but in NJ.....does it have the same trend? do you know?
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| muzammil
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nice way of catching some visa needing brillaint minds not willing to take risks. i think they wud fill all their positions with prematches.
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| puchpal
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The famous five are
harlem
st barnabas
bronx
brooklyn
and one more prog i forgot the name
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| just do it
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there are many IM programs in bronx and brooklyn - they are names of the places , not programs.
plz say names of those 5 programs. But, actually I heard that st.barnabas is not as bad as some others in NY. But, 'visa" is the real issue for IMG's. they know that.
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| azygous
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the modus operandi of these programs is very bad..they invite 100-150 IMGS for 10-15 programs...offereing prematch for 100% positions..if u have high scores and u accept it you get stuck..but if u need to get in a program and have a good score and need visa apply here..
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| sarika
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Frankly speaking, i dont care how bad they are, if i had to choose between a bad program vs no program...i'll take the bad one!
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| zianab
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The reason for not sending interviews to everybody is that they need people who have experience in the field and no gaps.Also I have heard they like young people too .They donot prefer old graduates .I don't think visa is issue here.I have heard that send interview to most people and still are unmatched because they dont rank the,.Last year they interviewed 400 people for 30 positions.
So you can guess chances.I heard that the surgery program looked like a train station during interviews.
Here is the stats from Freida .
General information
Comments: Located in the "Little Italy" neighborhood, near Fordham University and the Bronx Zoo. A major teaching affiliate of the Weill-Cornell Medical College.
Total program size
Yr1 Yr2 Yr3 Total [left]Positions[/left] 30 30 30 90
Primary teaching site St Barnabas Hospital <!--New change - added primary teaching site -->
Primary teaching site uses electronic medical records Yes Program best described as Community hospital, university affiliated Requires previous GME No Offers preliminary positions No <!-- New change - added the year 2007. Always been hard coded --> Applicants must have passed USMLE Step 2-CS before starting a first-year position in 2008 Yes <!-- End General Information --><!-- Application Information --> <!-- 08/2004 NRMP hard code for this time --><!-- New change - added the year 2008. Always been hard coded --> Participates in National Resident Matching Program (NRMP) in 2008 for 2008 or 2009 positions Yes Code(s): 3113140C0 Participant in San Francisco match No Participant in another matching program No Interviews conducted last year for first year positions 400
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| decide
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Hello babydoc. I have heard St. Barnabas, NJ is a good program.
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| mph
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One of the notorious program in NY is Interfaith, according to a senior attending in NYU.
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| rockingdoctor
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whats wrong with Interfaith Brroklyn?
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| babydoc4usmle
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thanks, decide
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| mph
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They abuse residents. Unless u r desperate with poor credentials, it is not recommended. Do u apply for the ER residency there? I heard u post some very funny stuff on ER board.
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