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| | 09/03/07 - 10:45 AM
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Amro wrote:
As I said before, I am not against Goljan, he teaches the way he thinks the best for the exam & sooooooooooooooooooooo many find it very valuable to listen to his audios & read his notes. I also said I don't have his rapid review book whose name has nothing to do with its huge size so I can't judge it. I am not blaming Goljan for anything & I have no gaps to fill, I am only saying what I think about him. To me, it was a great disappointment, I don't feel he teaches something I can study, I see him like Mr. Bounderbi & Mr. Gradegrind in "Hard Times" who try to fill students' heads with facts devoid of spirit. Anyway, I will try not to criticise him anymore as long as u & others take it as a personal offense.
No Offense taken here, but i thought u were saying tht he doesnt go indepth. i thought the case was that he wasnt going systematically thru every topic. Ofcourse there is no offense taken here u have a right to Say anything u like as long as it is in the boundaries of Decency.
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| Amro
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| | 09/03/07 - 10:47 AM
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praying4a99 wrote:
Excuse me,
Why is it if some member has a slightly different apinion or point of view than the common ones flowing arournd he gets all these [-] ( zero leader members found his post useful )!?
Please so-called "leader members" dont be bias.
It's ok if nobody of the leader members find my post useful, this I don't care for at all.
Edited by Amro on 09/03/07 - 10:56 AM
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| Amro
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| | 09/03/07 - 10:54 AM
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I have one more thing to say. So many people here r still studying pathology only from BRS which they find very useful. BRS also is still the number 1 rated book in FA. While studying pathology from Kaplan, I had BRS beside & found that they r the same, Kaplan pathology is a photocopy of BRS pathology. Despite that, people keep fluttering BRS & underestimating kaplan all the time which I can't understand. And for those who don't know, Goljan was one of the Kaplan team members in 1999.
Edited by Amro on 09/03/07 - 12:26 PM
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| edie
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| | 09/03/07 - 10:56 AM
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Many, albeit a minority, are put off by Goljan, for other reasons, like his jokes of snot, boogers and farting  Even I was, at first listen. But I got past that, because his work is compiled from years of step 1 exams' questions. He's got the psychology of a step 1 question writer's mind down pat. He knows all the tricks and traps, and presents them to us so we won't fall for them. For that alone, I could overlook the gross humor.
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| paheli
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i haven't come across those jokes, edie!!
which year am i listening to? did i get the clean version??
if so, thank goodness!
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| edie
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Oh sweetie, trust me, they are all there, and then some!
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| P4a99
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Yup there are only those 37 ones out there in the mean time.
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| P4a99
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1- Cell injury1
2- Cell injury2
3- Inflammation1
4- Inflammtation2
5- F&H1
6- F&H2
7- F&H3
8- CV3
9- CV4
10- Respiratory1
11- Respiratory2
12- Respiratory3
13- GI1
14- GI2
15- Hepa-pancre1
16- Hepa-pancre2
17- Renal1
18- Renal2
19- GYN1
20- GYN2
21- Endocrine
22- Musculoskeletal
23- Skin
24- CNS and special s.
25- Nutrition1
26- Nutrition2-neoplasia1
27- Neoplasia2
28- Neoplasia3-hemato.1
29- Hemato.2
30- Hemato.3
31- Hemato.4
32- Hemato.5
33- Hemato.6
34- Hemato.7
35- Hemato.8
36- CV1
37- CV2
Maybe next i should list them according to the Jokes so its easier for you paheli 
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| P4a99
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So its easier to check if you got those gross jokes or not 
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| propanalol
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| | 09/03/07 - 11:48 AM
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walaikum salaam amro
i think u're very much entitled to ure opinion n' though i'm a huge goljan fan, i can completely see what shortcomings u see in him...
in fact i myself was very frustrated w/ his notes...not very organized or clear...but maybe i have the old version, who knows?
i love goljan coz he reminds me of high school....all my teachers were exactly like him, they taught u how to think at a higher level n' my foundation,....well I owe my high school teachers for that...not my med school!! I regret goin to the med college i went to..they were the type to make u sit there n' memorize...
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| Amro
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| | 09/03/07 - 12:08 PM
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propanalol wrote:
walaikum salaam amro
i think u're very much entitled to ure opinion n' though i'm a huge goljan fan, i can completely see what shortcomings u see in him...
in fact i myself was very frustrated w/ his notes...not very organized or clear...but maybe i have the old version, who knows?
i love goljan coz he reminds me of high school....all my teachers were exactly like him, they taught u how to think at a higher level n' my foundation,....well I owe my high school teachers for that...not my med school!! I regret goin to the med college i went to..they were the type to make u sit there n' memorize...
yes may be I am very much entitled to my opinion not only in pathology but in everything. I also hated Kaplan micro book although everybody praises it, I tried to digest it but I haven't had the enzymes.
I like the way Goljan uses for reasoning & explaining mechanisms, if only it was in the context of something not like a bird flying alone in the sky or an isolated island in the ocean where nobody lives, u got me?
you know something, one of the reasons I decided to study for the USMLE is the way it is organized, I mean basic sciences, then clinical sciences, then clinical skills. I had been to an awful medical school in my country which wasted many years of my life for nothing worthy. I wanted to restudy everything from the beginning in an organized way. I wanted to build my clinical knowledge & skills on basic sciences, that's the way we all should learn. I am not studyng only for the exam, I am studying for the joy of study & learning in the first place. So when Goljan comes & tries to grasp all strings of the exam in one hand at one point of time, I find myself distracted & unable to get along with him.
Edited by Amro on 09/03/07 - 02:10 PM
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| bioguy
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| | 09/03/07 - 02:17 PM
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praying4a99 wrote:
I ddnt get you bioguy ... Who cares about what ?
forget it praying4a99, not a big deal. i was wondering who cares about the votes that forum leaders give to posts...
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| P4a99
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| | 09/03/07 - 02:56 PM
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I do, especially when i dont have time to go through the whole thread.
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| bioguy
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oh! didn't know its purpose! my bad!
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| paheli
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haha, thanks, p4a99. but i'll refrain on taking you up on such a chivalrous and altruistic offer!! fully my loss!!!
Amro wrote:
you know something, one of the reasons I decided to study for the USMLE is the way it is organized, I mean basic sciences, then clinical sciences, then clinical skills. I wanted to restudy everything from the beginning in an organized way. I wanted to build my clinical knowledge & skills on basic sciences, that's the way we all should learn. I am not studyng only for the exam, I am studying for the joy of study & learning in the first place.
i completely agree with you there, amro. as you said, it's a big reason for my doing this, too.
and, bioguy, go here:
http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/60441
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Amro wrote:
you know something, one of the reasons I decided to study for the USMLE is the way it is organized, I mean basic sciences, then clinical sciences, then clinical skills. I had been to an awful medical school in my country which wasted many years of my life for nothing worthy. I wanted to restudy everything from the beginning in an organized way. I wanted to build my clinical knowledge & skills on basic sciences, that's the way we all should learn. I am not studyng only for the exam, I am studying for the joy of study & learning in the first place.
That makes us two.
Do you study some where around the middle east?
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| yoga
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Amro wrote:
, Kaplan pathology is a photocopy of BRS pathology. .
is it ?
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| Amro
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Thank God, finally I found someone who agrees with me about something.
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| Amro
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praying4a99 wrote:
That makes us two.
Do you study some where around the middle east?
Where else will horrible medical schools exist? I am from Egypt
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| Amro
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| | 09/04/07 - 08:46 AM
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yoga wrote: Kaplan pathology is a photocopy of BRS pathology is it ?
Not in the literal meaning of the word of course. I mean they have almost the same content with some extra material in BRS.
a better word to describe Kaplan pathology is that it is BRS blot, 
Edited by Amro on 09/04/07 - 09:09 AM
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| paheli
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Amro wrote:
Thank God, finally I found someone who agrees with me about something.
hey, come on, amro. it's not that bad! we all have different likes and dislikes. nobody here meant any offence.
cheers!
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| Amro
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paheli wrote: hey, come on, amro. it's not that bad! we all have different likes and dislikes. nobody here meant any offence. cheers!
I know that my friend, we r here to exchange our views & opinions for the best of all of us, no offense at all.
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| bioguy
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Paheli, the link lead to this...
"This is a private forum for discussions among leader members."
anyways, forget it. i don't intend to pursue it!!!!
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| unique1
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Amro wrote:
Kaplan pathology is a photocopy of BRS pathology
In my opinion, both the Kaplan and BRS are notes taken from Robbin's .
Robbin's is THE book to have a good grasp on Pathology.
Amro , I admire that you are studying not only for the exam but for your knowledge. Keep up this quest . Good luck.
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