bioguy
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I know it means that it has higher probability of appearing in the exam. But when someone is preparing for the exam for the first time, how can one decide what is HY? I have read posts here that people write HY stuff from this book to that book, ex. from Kaplan to FA etc, or write HY stuff on the margins of the book. But how does one know that so and so fact is HY? Is it based on the qbanks? What if someone is reading the stuff for the first time and had no exposure to qbanks? Would that person have a technique on identifying HY stuff? Originally, I am guessing HY is the stuff that is more relevant to US clinical medicine. Is it true? I AM LOST!!!!! I tend to read and understand (if not memorize) each and every word in a textbook.  I have to learn this HY fishing technique or else I will run out of time. Can someone help me pls.
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| ShweHope99.9998
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Hi BG,
Like at med school inclass teacher said this is 5 star etc, also akp live & center dvd teacher say same, as Golj audio did, his HY notes, and also you will know when you read . Then exm takers done or not & med classmate students ot grads around the world know.
Like CVS is Hy subj all around the world & in there Myo Infart , CHF etc Hy all around the world.
Yes some are Hy in here only but not at other places , but still usmle will say immigrant from so & so place then you'll have to know the diseaseHY of thta place, so see , Hy are Hy .
But some more here others more there .
Also FA cram all possible HY in .
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| bioguy
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Thanks for the prompt and helpful reply, Shwe. So whatever HY is out there has already been made into books - FA, KME, RR etc. What I don't understand is people write more stuff from other sources into these HY books. So, what is the basis for chosing such stuff? I know this is a complicated question - people have different preferences and different study techniques. People might even want to put everything into a single book for easy reviewing at the end. If its such a complicated answer then I won't bother anyone. But if there is some simple technique, that I am missing (stupid me ), that can identify some stuff as probable HY, which is not already there in the so-called HY books, then please enlighten me.
What nnl said in starbrite's post, I think, is that he writes stuff on the margins that can help him revise stuff easy and fast. That I presume is a way of summarizing concepts using the most important information and then recalling the whole concept. That is an excellent method. If HY stuff is nothing but that "most important information" which helps build up and recall the whole concept, then again I won't bother anyone. I understand that. If its different then let me know.
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| bioguy
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http://www.prep4usmle.com/forum/thread/56076
this is the post where nnl said that.
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| starbrite520
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hey bioguy,.. ifeel we are very similar in our questions and pattern in studying.
i also am perplexed as what is HY, and who defines it. is it just some thing that you know once you write the steps, or do you just assume it because fa, and goljan stressed it to you. right?!
i think ... going through kaplan audio, goljan audio, you will hear "remember it for boards-its highly tested" that you know is high yield-duhs.
and they say fa is hy. and it makes sense as to why its such a small book for SO MANy subjects.
its quite confusing eh. im still just nodding along.
my method is this..........
assume its HY unless told otherwise.
asin i was planning on memorizing the doses, and every supplem topic in pharm kaplan. but at the opening of FA-pharm it says, doses are not necessary. and anticancer, hemat, endo is LOW yield. so i realize, okay dont mem doses, and i will learn cancer,hemat , endo drugs, but not reli stress if i dont get it completely.
you get what i mean? assume its hy, unless told otherwise. that way you dont miss anything. it is a little extra reading, but its worth it. i would recommend going thru fa's cover page per subject, and seeing their advice on what to kow in a topic.
i always correlate!
i take a kaplan book, read the chapter. and then flip thru fa, n see how they work on it. and sometimes its heaven, when i read a chapter, and find fa summarized it in 2 pics-thank god! it is tedious, but i am assured-that yey FA thinks it is relevant it is worth knowing real well.
again, do your readings. whenever an audio for kap or goljan says it is high yield. highlight it-and realize you should know it well.
if its a specific question-goljan is god for helping that way-write it on the side, and go over later!
if kap says, you wont need to memorie this table-then write that on the side, so you know not to beat your head over it.
everythings justified in an exam. so try everything equally-unless a great source tells you otherwise!
i wonder, if when goljan says "this will be asked on your exam" , if it really is? hmm
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| paheli
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starbrite520 wrote:
my method is this..........
assume its HY unless told otherwise.
it sounds like the most sure-shot method of bagging that 99. but you may end up with self-induced brain stroke due to info overload!!!  [no one knows if it's fatal yet!!!]
good luck. and please share your score with me!!!
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| paheli
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p.s. starbrite : have you seen my avatar yet?? i'm a survivor............. coz i quit midway!!!
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| new_n_lost
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Bioguy ................ Deciding which info is HY is a tough job so its better to figure out which topics can become HY.
For Eg . CVS Physio Cardiac Volume Loops and vessels diameter (its response in different situations) is HY. No matter wht sort of a paper u get there is gonna be a question on it.
Same goes for the Endo part of Thyroid every thing and i do mean everything is important for it infact i wud consider all the ENDO part of the 3 Ps is imp including its anatomy.
Heart ......... Anatomy of Aortic dissection, Coarctation, Arch Transposition, MI, SBE, RF, IE ( including the part where the vegetations r located). Coronary Artery Disease. Very HY like no one who has given Step 1 cant say this that they didnt get questions from this sections. I m making a list will take time so bear with me.
Hope this helps.
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| starbrite520
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pleaes get PP clues
they have so many helpful hints, and are used in Pass program
my friend told me about 20 questions could haev been answered on her exam just from PP clues
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| yoga
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well, i will quote from ManuNastai"a guy who posted 1 of the best exam experiences i ever read on the forum, though it was about a yr ago "
""there is nothing like high yield or low yield ANYTHING CAN BE TESTED"
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| bioguy
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yoga, one can read everything, given enough time. personally, i don't think its impossible to read everything, and ofcourse remember everything (one can't remember anything permanently unless revised/associated/applied).
so star, where can we get this PP clues?
nnl, thanks for offering to compile a HY list. i am looking forward to it.
So has anyone gone through the syllabus listed in the USMLE website? does that help in eliminating non-HY stuff?? i will try doing that as i keep reading.
paheli, for sure your brain will explode if you overload without giving time to adapt. but give time, and as i said - revise/associate/apply and your brain will be a black hole - absorb anything and everything!!!
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| P4a99
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Well bioguy, this is how i would put it:
with all those review books out there, you are still asking what is HY and what is not?!
Concerning the list on the USMLE web site: save your self a head ache, cuz everything you can imagine is on those lists!!!
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| bioguy
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yeah pray, with all those review books out there, wierd questions are still appearing in the test which people have to google out for answers.
so its all a game of probability. the word High Yield itself means "high probability" not "absolutely everything". i was ok with reading everything (too zealous, i know), but looking at people's posts about noting down HY in FA from other sources incited my interest in know what constitutes HY, thats all
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| neopulsar
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bioguy, i agree it's a game of probability..
i made alot of notes on FA based on what kaplan faculties said to be HY assuming that they ARE truly HY ..
i don't know...it might hurt my score but makes my prep alot easier; skipping alot!
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Well If u want to skip then plz dont skip the Following:
CVS:
Pathogenesis of Hypertension
Effects of vessel diameters and radii on circulation and factors effecting it
Heart failure Physio and Patho
Heart Blocks
MI
IE
SBE
HCM
DCM
RF
Valvular Dysfunction (All of them)
Resp:
TB
Sarcoidosis
COPD
PiO2
Lung Tumors
Renal:
All Nephritis/Nephrotic
APKD
ATN
AIN
Tumors
Endo:
Effects of Thyroid hormones on body
PTH and Vit D and Ca Interactions
Adrenal Glands
DM
Musclo:
Bone Disorders
Common Topics which will kill in u the exm
Alcohol
AIDS
Hep B
This is just to name the few Extremely Important and overlooking wud be like SUICIDE. I will make a further list of the other subjects too.
Sorry for being late cos i have been trying to stay away for the pc.
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| bioguy
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excellent! thanks nnl.
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| shwe
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NnL , thanks, do post more since lots of us are still studying, most at 2nd read , to study seriously, memorized, emphasize so your post is very valuable, treasure, helpful for us.
Thank you mate.
GL
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