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| dr.roh
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Thanxs yoga
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| angel^Doctor
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i've heard canadian much easier
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| dr.roh
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thanx....I passed my step 1 and cs. Studying for ck now......was wondering if I should take the canadian exam also.
I am just so tired of the studying....so if the canadian exam was harder...was planning not to take it.
But now most people told me the canadian exam is easier.
Thanx again guys....and good luck studying.
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| yoga
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kaplan ppl r making advertisement of using step 2 notes 4 canadian xams
but dont know if any1 did that
most ppl study from tornto notes but they seem too simple but there r no Q included
is there any bank 2 subscribe 4???
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| Torontonian
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Canadian is easier, similar to ck but you will need to add a little bit about canadian law and guidelines. You will find it in the Toronto Notes, excellent book to prepare the MCCs. However your chances in Canada are limited (check carms.ca), so think twice before using your money.
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there is no banks; only canadians medical graduates have their own banks in their med schools; their are trained to pass. You may find questions in the black market but their are written by people who took the exam (what they remember about it) so they are not a good source.
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| yoga
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 why isnt there something ilke uw 4 canadian xam
thats not fair
there is assessment xams like nbme??
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| dr.roh
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Actually I am canadian-american citizen.....but went to medical school in england......And I heard its hard to get residency in canada for foreigners.
Well I will check up on it. I will look into the toronto notes thing too. I haven't looked that much into the canadian exam....so don't know if there are any available q-banks for it...but it seems like there isn't....
I guess they don't want foreigners to apply 
Anyways for now I will focus on ck....
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| hedieh
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The Canadian Medical Council Website has two online qbanks on it which you can purchase for about 40$ each.
The adress of website is:
http://www.mcc.ca/english/news/index.html
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| dr.roh
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Thanx Hedieh for the info.
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| yoga
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that was useful hedieh
i would appreciate f some1 know any forum 4 ppl prep 4 canadian xams
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Canadian Medical Liscence Process:
IMGs should first take part in MCEE ( medical council evaluating exam). This is a pass & fail exam but the marks are sometimes considered in evaluation in some programs. if one passes MCEE, it is valid for unlimited time. (at present)
Canadian medical graduates and IMGs who passed MCEE should take part in MCQEI. It is a computer based 8 hour exam (like step 1 or 2CK), and 95% of questions are clinical like step 2CK, only about 5% of questions are based on basic sciences.
For an IMG, having MCEE and MCQEI ( medical council qualifying exam I) in his/her resume is enough to take part in match, along with other stuff ( eg; research, Canadian clinical experience, past experiences).
There is also another exam MCQEII ( medical council qualifying exam II) which is equivalent to American step 3. It is necessary for taking Canadian Medical Liscence and it could be done during residency for after that.
Goodluck for all
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does any1 know about canadian ERAS??
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This is the adress of canadian medical council electronic matching service:
http://www.carms.ca/
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Correction..... MCCEE is only for IMG, no canadian grd need to pass or sit for MCCEE .
Candadian exms are mostly unlimitted , not affecting the match .
There is no ERAS, since not much medical school in Canada, all are Universities, unlike USa as so many different residency training bodies.
Yes, Canadain do like foreign grad,but better for recent grad or just out of school or final yrs almost done, or recently or currently in practice .
Canadain exm , not easy to answer right Q to rt Ans , but easier in term of to study prep, since no st 1, 2, 3 , mostly clinical, but also applied basic Sc as all are canadian way . also marks are really compititive compare to USA, since has cutting level usually, but as usual contacts & ethenic group also important which chnaging according to what .. who knows .
Yes , can study st 2, plus st3 , but for general foundation, but has to be canadian way of thinking, no one know for very sure, but study group in canadain city with IMg officail group studying, sharing, solving the Qs, teaching, cases .
Also has own university MCCEE course for IMG now , also OSCE like Cs but totally more difficult, different from has so many private school , not kaplan one though kaplan Canadian 3 day Cs will practice, for oSCE while train , teach u for CS .
Check IMG world here as MCCEE .
As far as I knwo IMg can only get left over match as next round after canadain grad, but canadian grad are choosier than amaerican , even match at USA residency, so some chanec are there, some are not & all provinces has own rules, exms in clinical , MCQ, Clinical in cases, English etc , on top of the CAnadian national rule in order to match .
MCQ ask canadain universities , some used to sell LMCC I, II ... Qs I similar for MCCEE, MCCQEI , II for ? QE I or II .. I lost of track of last one re II .
Some doing canadian exm has all Qs, do not know where it is from, but been circulating , I also have not see them yet & do not know where to get them exact yet .
Best........... check this www.mcc.ca for exm application , then link from there too . But Qs, books sell on that alot say , do not bother , but do not know any about it .
But nothing to loose if money is not the big deal, try all exms .
PPl study st 2, 3 with EE , QE exm . CS with osce .
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| ShweHope99.9998
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After all above exm, need to sit ur speciality board exm / exm from Royal College of Physician & Surgeon of ur speciality etc, fm med exm .
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| yoga
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thanx shwe 4 info
is it true that residents r not paid so u have 2 have sponser 4 financial support $$$?
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is there a book like FA 4 MCCEE???
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I just talked to a friend I met during cs course. She was studying for canadian exams and usmle. Anyways she did good on her canadian exams...now studying for ck. For her she felt the exam wasnt bad.
My dad long time ago...toke canadian exams and usmle's. He said the canadian exams are much easier.
But wanted more of a fresher opionion.
So people who take the canadian exams can participate in usa residency match without usmles???
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| dr.roh
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I heard about the q's thing circulating....maybe thats why some feel its easier.......dont know
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check this
http://www.kaplanmedical.com/Kaplan/Article/Canad...
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hi there.
i did the canadian exams but i felt mccee was easy but qe1 was hard.n the worst aspect of those exams r that..
u dont get any good mcqs. all the remembered stuff from people who appeared in the exam . mostly half mcqs n half answers.. even those r hard to find. then simply reading toronto notes doesnt help u much. its a huge book atleast for me. u need time n then at teh end u can never revise it.
then they offer exams only twice a year.
recently from january 2007 now the MCCEE is valid only for 5 years from teh date u take it. but if u do MCCEE PLUS Q1 then its valid for ever .n getting the residency is really hard.
tehres agood site for more info.
www.rxpg.com
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| ShweHope99.9998
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Correction.. mccee have no more 5 yr limit unless it change back to it again .
Best is check at www.mcc.ca official site .
Residency got pay but less compare with USA, & yr of residency & types, speciality are different , plus as IMg in Ontario nee dto serve at 5 yr in under serve area, most other provinces might do too, all provinces have own rules plus there is whole Canada rule too . The sponsor is ... if ur goverment send u here for trainging, ur gov will sponsor u but spot are very sure & u will treat like a king, queen in training , but to get freely practice is another story.
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