Jackofknives
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Id like to ask you about something technical, not about chances and other repeated threads, but it seems u have disabled PM, so is there anyway i could get hold of u?
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| new_n_lost
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Well buddy this is the Exactly the Way U can easily Get hold of Her She has Blocked All Incoming PMs. She Can make COnsiderations later on. But Initially This is the Way to Communicate to her, by Addressing to her Publicly
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| bbb
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Sorry, but I have disabled the PM because of a couple of people who asked me to view their applications personally, etc. So it's off. Sorry
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| Jackofknives
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Well here is my question, i wrote to several places but could not get a direct answer. i hope u can enlighten me a little
I’m a foreign medical student from Denmark and I would like to ask a question in regard to the requisite requirements for residency application and the right to practice medicine in the United States. Here in Denmark, upon graduation from medical school I will be awarded the title Medical Doctor and a diploma, however I will not be eligible for unlimited license to practice medicine in Denmark unless I undergo a 12 months internship in surgery, internal medicine, family practice for 4 months each. The procedure is quite similar to the British program.
Now my question is, is it absolutely necessary to obtain an unlimited license in the nation from which I have earned my M.D. degree in order to be obtain the right to apply for U.S. residencies, or would completion of Step1, Step2 and CSA suffice?
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| P4a99
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I hope it suffices! ... I had exactly the same question. "can we simply skip internship in our home countries and head to the US with the certificate they give us after our sixth year of med. school?"
Over here internship is just a waste of time, you work as a maid for the seniors! ...
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| GOGETA
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praying4a99 wrote:
Over here internship is just a waste of time, you work as a maid for the seniors! ...
You have not been in Dominican Republic
If they ask you something and you dont know, they give you a sanction in hours that is hours that you have to stay and work in the hospital.
And just for fun so they work less or to give you a hard time they sanction you for no apparent good reason.
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| GOGETA
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And you dont get paid in the internship, here its FREEEEEEEE, and the extra hours in sanction are FREEEEE, no pay.
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| P4a99
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Why did any one say that they pay you here? Oh no no no
You pay about 7500$ a year.
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Jackofknives wrote:
Now my question is, is it absolutely necessary to obtain an unlimited license in the nation from which I have earned my M.D. degree in order to be obtain the right to apply for U.S. residencies, or would completion of Step1, Step2 and CSA suffice?
The bottom line is going to be: Can you get ECFMG certification? If you can, then you can enter residency. If you can't get the ECFMG certification because your school/country says that you have to have the internship, then you will have to do the internship.
Check with ECFMG - they will know the answer to what you are asking.
Good luck. It's been a number of years since I was in Denmark - I spent several days in Odense. Great beer (Elephant Beer is the one that I can remember!!)
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| P4a99
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Thanks alot BBB.
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| Jackofknives
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First of all, thx for the replies, I appreciate it.
This s the answer I got from ECFMG, it’s basically composed of a bunch of standard answers.
“Dear Doctor,
I am writing in response to your email below.
The purpose of ECFMG® Certification is to assess the readiness of International Medical Graduates (IMGs) to enter U.S. residency and fellowship programs that are accredited by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME). If you wish to enter such a program, you must be certified by ECFMG before you can start the program. ECFMG Certification is also required before applying to take Step 3 of the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE™). In the United States, to obtain a license to practice medicine, physicians must apply directly to the jurisdiction where they plan to practice medicine. Licensing jurisdictions in the United States require that IMGs applying for unrestricted licensure be certified by ECFMG.
In order to obtain ECFMG certification, you will need to meet the current medical education credential and examination requirements. In order to meet the current medical education credential requirements, you must submit two photocopies of your final medical school diploma (Candidatus Medicinae diploma) and a certified word-for-word English translation if it is not already issued in English. ECFMG verifies every applicant's medical school diploma and transcript with the appropriate officials of the medical school that issued the diploma. You will not fulfill the ECFMG medical education credential requirements until such verifications are received directly from your medical school and accepted by ECFMG.
In order to meet the current examination requirements for ECFMG certification, you will need to take and pass the USMLE™ Step 1, USMLE Step 2 Clinical Knowledge (Step 2 CK), and USMLE Step 2 Clinical Skills (Step 2 CS) examinations.
If you would like to apply for a USMLE examination, you will need to complete and submit a 2007 USMLE Step 1/Step 2 application form. You may apply on-line using the Interactive Web Application (IWA) which is available on the ECFMG website, www.ecfmg.org.
However, as licensure requirements are determined by the state medical boards, not by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG), you will need to address any questions you have regarding licensure directly to the medical board of the state in which you wish to be licensed. For a list of the addresses and telephone numbers of the state medical boards, I suggest you contact the Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB) at the following address.”
My concerns is that whether entering residency and obtaining an unlimited license are two different things. Its no use if I received a residency position and don’t have the right to see patients.
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| P4a99
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Jackofknives, dont you feel that they didnt answer your question in particular? they just sent you a template mentioning the basic stuff.
- Its still not clear whether we need to do the internship or not.
- I remember that i read somewhere that internship in the US for AMGs is basically their PGY1, right? So why do we need to do it two times?
- I think ECFMG doesnt care whether you did your intership or not but i think those who are going to screw up are our med. school offitials. Probably they wouldnt cooporate or provide all the documents that ECFMG needs till we end our internships.
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| Jackofknives
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as far as i know US PGY1, internship is a bit different. it s specialty oriented, say if u r goin to do neurosurgery ur PGY1 is general surgery and some neurology, whereas here internship covers everything.
i hope they dont screw up my application or i will...
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