sarika
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I still remember 4 months ago how all of us were frustrated as to how we'll be able to meet this requirement "USCE". We emailed >100 programs, called every distant relative who was remotely related to medicine, some of us even lurked around parking lots of hospitals to see a familiar face who would let us in. A few did indeed volunteer at hospitals, agreed to do things that weren't at all related to medical field. All this for "USCE". I want to know how it turned out. How much and what kind of USCE were we able to get?How many of us succeeded.
I 'll go first.
1.lunteer at a free clinic.
2.Extern at a pvt physician. 2 USLOR.
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| sarika
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hello!!!!!
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| taba
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is it mandatory 2 get some period of USCE or just it is an advantage 4 u when u aplly???
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| hawaiii
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congratulation everybody who was able to fight and get USCE.Keep Fighting.
Sarika,make sure that you dont put extern in your cv with eras.
Externship is usually in hospital,usually in Hospitals with residency programs and are ACGME accredited programs.
Private practice hospital experience comes under observership etc.
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| sarika
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I beg to differ,
What we did in pvt practice was not observership at all...Observership is just that "You observe"
While you can make a case for externship as it can only be done in a teaching hospital, what my LOR writer told me is to mention it as EXTERNSHIP. He was professor at two big uni hospitals and he explained whatever a student/doctor do under a licensed physician is perfectly fine (expect ofcourse doing procedures but we are just talking abt history and examinations)
Regardless of how you name it, as BBB puts it, Mention it somewhere in CAF and explain it whichever way you like during interview...Just make sure you and the Letter writer are on the same page!
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| usmle_exam2005
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Sarika:
I don't agree with your comment like "Observership is just that "You observe" ".
No not at all.I am also doing an observation ship .And i am doing it in a pretty restrictive area(Govt)...When i got this observation ship, I had to go all those background check,finger print,drug test blah blah.I was told by my Mentor that you are not allowed here to touch the patients and take history..But after 10 days He allowed me to exam the pts ,not only that now a days i am taking full history(i have to tell that to my physician) and doing physical under His supervision.Only thing i don't do ,that is i can't write any patient's note..
He also gave me a good LOR .. He has mentioned that i am doing physical and taking history .and He mentioned that i am doing an observationship..
I think we all are doing same but it depends on how your physician writes your LORs..If Someone of us really lucky they are getting the LOR as a externship..
Good luck
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| sarika
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Hi usmle-exam2005,
I think you just explained my point. They started you on observership but immediately modified your role from an OBSERVER (who stands there and observes) to an Extern. It doesnt matter what you call it, as long as he mentioned your history taking and doing physicals in his LOR, you are good and consider yourself lucky.
Goodluck.
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| sarika
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BTW Read # 5 of this link to digitaldoc's website. Good stuff
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| hawaiii
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Well Externship is when you are working in a hospital ,something like an intern
here is the exact definition:
EXTERN :A person associated with but not officially residing in an institution, especially a nonresident physician on a hospital staff.
here is what I found.I had same kind of experience like yours and I was told not to write externship in it as PD know what is it and expect the truth.
You can write what ever you like and the letter writer if especially a non american physician can write it.
But if you do externship ,one is supposed to do rotations with residents,attend conferences,present cases with resident etc this kind of stuff.
But again everybody has to answer the question on their own during interview and can ofcourse explain that they thought it was externship and that is why they wrote it.
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