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| | 08/01/07 - 08:40 AM  
 
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B? -The pleural fluid shud be transudate in CHF, protein shud be less than 3 -Transude: sugar>60, and protein ratio<0.5 (how do we know the protein ratio of effusion to serum when they didn’t even give a value for SERUM PROTEIN???) Not helpful for this question but: Remember for transudate all these three must be met: 1. LDH Effusion < 200 2. LDH Effusion/Serum < 0.6 3. Protein Effusion/Serum < 0.5 (if one of these not met, then it’s an exudate) Leukocytes? Neut? Monocytes??? What should the counts be? (I guess increased leukocytes if infection = exudate.)?
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| robin082006 Forum Hero

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| | 08/01/07 - 09:48 AM  
 
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| doc_clotaire Forum Guru

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| | 08/01/07 - 10:13 AM  
 
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| DrVirgo Forum Hero

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| | 08/01/07 - 10:40 AM  
 
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Can you guys please explain how you got to the answer B? Thanks
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| khorshid Forum Guru
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| | 08/01/07 - 12:07 PM  
 
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B (I guess you can assume the serum protein to be 7 or so.) and so options C,D and E are exudates due to their pro level. Then in B not only the leuko count is much lower, also the sugar is above 60, so imo is the best option for transudate from chf
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| cirus Forum Guru

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| | 08/01/07 - 01:05 PM  
 
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This fluid is d t Hrt Fail so first look on the WBCs, they shouldn't be high (no infec), this leaves us with options B & E, this is transudate so less prot---> B
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| Drtweetie Forum Elite

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| | 08/01/07 - 04:22 PM  
 
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Pt has CHF, so it's transudative fluid, debating b/t B&E (B) has lesser protein, fitting transudative fluid where fluid protein/serum protein must be smaller than 0.5
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| | 08/01/07 - 09:17 PM  
 
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