Hotobhaga
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Every time somebody mentions UW, there are a responses from a newbie/junior pouring accolades on UW. I have noticed simmilar patterns on other forums too. Makes me wonder about the presence of a smart marketing ploy.....
Honestly I did not think UW as that great.
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| GOGETA
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I dont work for them, but based on my experience in step1, it help me A LOT to PASS the exam.
Now if the UW people want to hire gogeta please send me an email
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| carvedilol80
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i agree with hotobhaga...UW is not as great as the hype it carries with it...i think it's their marketing policy to put new & difficult ques in their q banks so that people might think that they are different and new...but the real exam focusses on common problems rather than newer and rare things...nevertheless there are not many choices and UW still rules
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| robin082006
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I saw that Kaplan qbank is more similar to the real exam. The info in Kap qbank is very standard.
UW is harder than Kap qbank because lots of vague questions, some questions do not give enough info to answer but some questions give lots of info making us confused.
Lots of people did not take UW but still got 99.
Combination of qbank is good for exam.
I agree with carvedilol80, they intentionally put difficult questions in their qbank as a marketing strategy and they succeed.
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| drtanvir
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From my step 1 exam experience i found kaplan more similar to exam and info there is easy to retain than UW.
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| krishnadeep
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i started preparing seriously for step-1 after subscribing UW.it helped me a lot in my step-1 exam.my score of 98 is just becoz of UW only.thanks to UW.i dint even do kaplan q bank.
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| new_n_lost
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krishnadeep wrote:i started preparing seriously for step-1 after subscribing UW.it helped me a lot in my step-1 exam.my score of 98 is just becoz of UW only.thanks to UW.i dint even do kaplan q bank.
Now THats a Classical Salesman Comment. Damn Krishnaji U shud be in an Ad Campaign. 
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| cirus
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What on earth is this, if anyone is solving UW now, & tried the new qs added, comparing it to the remaining of the bank wouldn't come close to justify how hard they r, UW before is 5/10 hard compared to the new qs...Seriously i really appreciated UW, but after these qs, I join u guys, there just putting really, & i mean really vague qs, that sometimes u fell u don't even now what there talking about...I can't denny i learned a lot from it, but sometimes u get just fed up..
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| Hotobhaga
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I am telling you the K guys know their job. And they have researched right. UW just wants to make a fast buck ..no research.. no nothing. They are getting away by smart marketing and they use the net very effectively. Fresh UsMLE takers should realise this.
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| paheli
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would you recommend qbank then? coz that's the only alternative available currently. and i've heard folks say that qbank qns are simply not representative of the real exam qns. and i personally know of someone who used qbank for step 1[a not bad score] and uw for 2ck[a much better score], and this person was an amg.
for the record, i don't have anything for or against either of these qn sources.
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| cirus
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Add to this..
I took NBME 2 & 3
It has come to my attention that 2 qs i solved today (from the new ones) where exactly, & i mean exactly on NBME, just copy & paste, so i don't even know what to call this, isn't this bank supposed to be genuine, don't they have one of the best security available against unauthorised usage of their qs, or are they just copying qs from other sources???????
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| Hotobhaga
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dont do questions thinking that the same ones are going to come up in the boards. thats never the scene. Do the questions as a study tool. So that when you read the books you know in what way the concept may be asked of you. q0BOOK and Q-bank give you that perspective. also there is a book called Secrets by adam Brochert. read it and find out that there really not many ways they can test you in step 2.
I am telling you that in my exam i had almost 10 minutes in very block left to check my answers. i am not saying that I knew more or that i willl score well. what i am saying is that none of the questions surprised me. i just prempted the way they would ask the qs when i was reading the K-notes.
Dont mug questions.. do concepts. uW makes you mug questions ... Because half of them are so bizzare.
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| ricky77
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I agree to Hotobhaga. I did UW for step 1 and 2. It was still ok but now iam doing it for step 3 and it is plain ridiculous. I mean there is no head and tail of the question and the answer. They only aim at making your answer wrong by inserting some bullshit twists. I felt that if you dont stick to your parent concepts, doing UW can actually make you more confused about some core topics like MI, pulm Embolism etc.
At least for step 3 iam disgusted with UW...
My advise stick to your basic concepts and double check UW answers as they can be seriously wrong or mislading.
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| new_n_lost
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Misleading Answers I think Someone TOld me that it was a Problem with Kaplan Step 2 questions cos they made no sense at all and if u have to be good at them just do Kaplan Notes and u will be fine.
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| P4a99
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new_n_lost wrote: Now THats a Classical Salesman Comment.
what the ....?!!
its so abvious it made me laugh
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| the_holy_man
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Marketing or no marketing, a person should use his own judgement while purchasing or spending time on any resource. If someone makes a certain material a sole source for his or her exam preparation, based on too many newbies swearing by that material on a forum , he has only himself to blame. If anybody notice any members behaviour too suspicious of spam or marketing, it should be reported using the report tool. Too many reprts against a person should result in some kind of warning or even a ban for that member. It is important who you take advice from, and how much you rely on that advice.
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| arlete
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Dear Hotobhaga:
Sincerelly, it helped me a lot. So did Kaplan.
(My husband is still paying 100% of my bills).
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| GOGETA
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In my step1 exam there were many questions that I was able to choose correct because of UW, there were a couple verbartim and the thinking process was apar with the test,and the freida software relax you because you feel you are doing UW.
now there were some basic stuff that they dont ask or they ask it in a really DEEP way that on my test I was OMG this is so easy and yet I dont remember/ know the answer
But I remember that they focus on a 50% of type of questions we will get on the test.
I have not started to use it for step2 ck but I repeat based on my step1 experience I will use it.
Ps no I dont work for them I think,let me check from were I get paid ....... nop not from them, so its an indepenent analisis
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| ShweHope99.9998
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the_holy_man wrote:
Marketing or no marketing, a person should use his own judgement while purchasing or spending time on any resource. If someone makes a certain material a sole source for his or her exam preparation, based on too many newbies swearing by that material on a forum , he has only himself to blame. If anybody notice any members behaviour too suspicious of spam or marketing, it should be reported using the report tool. Too many reprts against a person should result in some kind of warning or even a ban for that member. It is important who you take advice from, and how much you rely on that advice.
Nothing against any courses or person post this.
But just to let know, if to use report marketing, unless you know for sure it's the courses, Q bank recommandation posting is by the staff really work for the courses , company .
Even though if that staff is med student or med grad even he/she work for that courses company , the advice he/she gives are simply his sincere honest opinion to the best interst of helping fellow usmle prepper , ususally are in the case like that .
Like me not work for any one of them yet, I use kap in almost every thing , also RR patho & his audio , live , so I will jump in to discussion advice recommand or even open new topics whenever these
give promotion or free, special events .
But it ends up as against the rules .
Thoght, this forum supposes to share good info ... like yahoo or community forum for all med fellow to know any bargain, free, special events so someone may save money for the special , free event or discount promotion time. or Get free info at one stop free event .
That will be great that we will have the forum in general as free events, promotion topics to post at each steps, residency , air tickets, vacation package etc forum or as common forum as free , special, promotion updates , so even last time some one post the RR path sale for 27$,UW sale, etc courseQ, Q bank sale all any of us can post, link there without getting misunderstanding of warning .
Ok , b4 my point lost, hi Holy , if ever that report re marketing, I will definately get so many warnings & kick out of here , since I always answer if the courses, books, material, Q banks that I had known & are really good, means help alot of good friends of 90 to 99 or any marks that make them pass , since I have not take my exm yet.
But so far all kap , RR path etc material I use , it helps alot in my study , so I will recommand all to go for that, also UW, RR path etc by all my friends experinces.
I do not understand why K is agaist UW in st 2, that is famous for ages .
Also in st 2 likes to see strong books, Qs, as common use like we all know in st 1. eg st 2 kap Ln dvd, ,? FA, UW , ? kap Q bank, ? secret .. by Boch.. what exactly it is etc etc .
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| Hotobhaga
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somebody translate what ShweHope means please
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| the_holy_man
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Hotobhaga wrote:
somebody translate what ShweHope means please
I think Shwe is skeptical about reporting potential marketeers or spammers in the forum and he has made some good points.
ShweHope99.9998 wrote:
Thoght, this forum supposes to share good info ... like yahoo or
community forum for all med fellow to know any bargain, free, special
events so someone may save money for the special , free event or
discount promotion time. or Get free info at one stop free event .
That
will be great that we will have the forum in general as free events,
promotion topics to post at each steps, residency , air tickets,
vacation package etc forum or as common forum as free , special,
promotion updates , so even last time some one post the RR path sale
for 27$,UW sale, etc courseQ, Q bank sale all any of us can post, link
there without getting misunderstanding of warning .
Free information or useful tips are good and always encouraged on the forum and thats what many people come here for. However if a certain member is only posting about, say, discounts from certain company and how much it helped him or her and does not other wise contribute anything else to the forum, it does create suspicion. It may well be that there is no hidden marketing and all the opinions expressed by the members are their own honest experiences. But we never know, so if a member is highly suspicious it should be dealt with accordingly.
ShweHope99.9998 wrote:
Ok , b4 my point lost, hi Holy , if ever that report re marketing, I
will definately get so many warnings & kick out of here , since I
always answer if the courses, books, material, Q banks that I had known
& are really good, means help alot of good friends of 90 to 99 or
any marks that make them pass , since I have not take my exm yet.
But so far all kap , RR path etc material I use , it helps alot in my
study , so I will recommand all to go for that, also UW, RR path etc by
all my friends experinces.
Most people are wise enough to know who to report and the administrators are wise enough to interpret those reports apropriately. You can tell the spammers from genuine persons easily unless the marketeers ae really intelligent !!
ShweHope99.9998 wrote:
I do not understand why K is agaist UW in st 2, that is famous for ages .
Also
in st 2 likes to see strong books, Qs, as common use like we all know
in st 1. eg st 2 kap Ln dvd, ,? FA, UW , ? kap Q bank, ? secret .. by
Boch.. what exactly it is etc etc .
What????
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| izn
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oh my God... ..i am totally confused now...i was just going to buy UW with all the good reviews and now i am thinking of buying Kaplan.....
i used Kaplan for step 1 scored 80 ....
anyway i am confused more than ever......aaah
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| GOGETA
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for money and most like the test= UW
but dont get me wrong you will find some questions like kaplan
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| dncosta
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I subscribed UW for Step 2 CS (my 1st exam) and was very happy. Then, I subscribed Kaplan and UW for Step 2 CK and I really didn't like Qbank (this was in Jan/Feb, I don't know if they had any substantial change). On the other hand, UW helped me a lot to develop a logical approach to questions and also as a knowledge source. I've only paid for UW for Step 1, so can't comment on Qbank, but UW was very helpful again.
And I've paid for all of them, I've never received anything from them other than the questions...
Now I'm planning to subscribe it for Step 3, probably for 2 months beginning in mid August.
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| izn
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well i tried kaplan for step 1 so i will taste UW this time...and thats final now...i will post later which one was better....
thanks for all the help guys...
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