bbb IM Program Coordinator

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| | 07/28/07 - 07:28 AM  
 
|   #3 |
VISA CATEGORY CHANGE: Exchange Visitors may not, as a matter of course, change from one J-1 category designation to another. The categories most often used by foreign national physicians are: “research scholar,” “professor,” “student,” and “alien physician.” For example, physicians entering the United States in J-1 status under the category of “research scholar” may not change to the “alien physician” category for clinical training without prior DoS approval. From the ECFMG web page.....
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| misty Forum Elite
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| | 07/28/07 - 07:37 AM  
 
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medmal wrote: I don't know much details..but I know one thing for sure...it's almost impossible to convert J1 research into J1 clinical.... I would not agree to tht! It also depends on who sposors ur j1 visa ( might no eb ecfmg all the time, can be the institute whre eu are working), wheher u are funded by teh US govt ot ur home country govet and finally, is teh work u are doing on teh needed skills list of ur home country. havent done it myself.yet though.
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| fox Forum Guru

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| | 07/28/07 - 08:32 AM  
 
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misty wrote: I would not agree to tht! It also depends on who sposors ur j1 visa ( might no eb ecfmg all the time, can be the institute whre eu are working), wheher u are funded by teh US govt ot ur home country govet and finally, is teh work u are doing on teh needed skills list of ur home country. havent done it myself.yet though.
Dear Misty, J1 clinical visa can only be sponsored by the ECFMG unlike the research visa which can be sponsored by any university/ med school. @BBB thanks for the info. I wanna hear from guys how they actually got the DoS approval that you have mentioned. Like what documents they submitted, the time line for the whole procedure, any rejections and if so, what was the reason? So guys who already matched...c'mon guys its time to give back to the forum. Also BBB, from a PC's point of view what documents were you required to submit (if you had handled such a case). Did your role end after issuing a letter of contract and the buck passed on to ecfmg? Were you required to furnish any other letters/ documents on behalf of the candidate? Finally does the area of reseidency need to be exactly in the same area as of research? Like can you do research in neurosciences and apply for residency in Obs Gyn requesting a change to J1 clinical? I would imagine DoS will kick ur butt out of the US if you do that, but would like to know if any hero managed to do that.
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| bbb IM Program Coordinator

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| | 07/28/07 - 10:01 AM  
 
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My program has never hired anyone on a J1 research visa. For the J1 clinical visa, we just fill out some papers, they are sent to ECFMG, magic happens and residents show up at my desk with smiles and gifts....
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| doublhelix Forum Newbie
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| | 07/28/07 - 01:24 PM  
 
|   #7 |
Hi, Let me first clear this misconception that j1 research visa cannot be changed to j1 clinical visa. It can be changed to J1 clinical visa but you have to go back to home country and get a new visa. It cannot be changed WITHIN THE US without DOS approval. the only exception is if someone is on a SHORT TERM j1 research visa for which u dont even have to go back to home country. I had the same query and I had personally talked to ECFMG DOS representative abt this in detail abt 6 months back. Now it is sad that programs dont hire people with J1 research visa without actually knowing that it can be changed to j1 clinical visa without any problem, the procedure being exactly same as anyone else offered a j1 visa.
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| doublhelix Forum Newbie
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| | 07/28/07 - 01:41 PM  
 
|   #8 |
Moreover if someones' J1 research period is over or he quits his job and applies for j1 clinical visa from his home country, it doesnot mean as a CHANGE OF CATEGORY. It just means that he is applying for a NEW VISA. and no where it is mentioned that anyone with j1 research visa cannot apply for a new j1 clinical visa, though he cannot get another j1 resarch visa.
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| doublhelix Forum Newbie
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| | 07/28/07 - 02:16 PM  
 
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Dear BBB, You mentioned in ur previous post that"My program has never hired anyone on a J1 research visa" Does that mean that u dont invite people with j1 research visa for interview or noone with j1 research has ever matched into ur program. The reason i am asking this is beacuse I am on a j1 research visa and I am scared that programs might not interview me just because of my visa status.
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| misty Forum Elite
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| | 07/28/07 - 04:05 PM  
 
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dude i was talking abt j1 research only!
fox wrote: Dear Misty, J1 clinical visa can only be sponsored by the ECFMG unlike the research visa which can be sponsored by any university/ med school. @BBB thanks for the info. I wanna hear from guys how they actually got the DoS approval that you have mentioned. Like what documents they submitted, the time line for the whole procedure, any rejections and if so, what was the reason? So guys who already matched...c'mon guys its time to give back to the forum. Also BBB, from a PC's point of view what documents were you required to submit (if you had handled such a case). Did your role end after issuing a letter of contract and the buck passed on to ecfmg? Were you required to furnish any other letters/ documents on behalf of the candidate? Finally does the area of reseidency need to be exactly in the same area as of research? Like can you do research in neurosciences and apply for residency in Obs Gyn requesting a change to J1 clinical? I would imagine DoS will kick ur butt out of the US if you do that, but would like to know if any hero managed to do that.
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| azygous Forum Senior

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| | 07/28/07 - 05:56 PM  
 
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if the j1 visa is sponsered by a university for a research purpose..i dont there will be a problem for j1 visa for residency.. the info on ecfmg site is for j1 research visa which is sponspored by ECFMG for a physician for a research purpose..( thats what i think)...i may be wrong
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| medmal Forum Newbie
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| | 07/28/07 - 07:35 PM  
 
|   #12 |
J1 Visa is an exchange VISA....no matter what it is for..research or Clinical, once the purpose of the VISA is over, you will have to go back to your home country for the specified period of time ( 2 years )...only after this period can you apply for another J1 Visa....so there is a possibilty that you can get J1 clinical after you have been in a J1 research...but either you have to go back to your home country and stay for 2 years or get a waiver before you apply for the J1 clinical....and you cannot convert a J1 research into J1 clinical.....
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| medmal Forum Newbie
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| | 07/28/07 - 07:38 PM  
 
|   #13 |
J1 clinical visas and J1 research visas are entirely different...you cannot practice medicine in J1 research visa even if you are a physician....and you cannot change status from J1 to H1 or grren card...
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| bbb IM Program Coordinator

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| | 07/29/07 - 11:50 AM  
 
|   #14 |
doublhelix wrote: Dear BBB, You mentioned in ur previous post that"My program has never hired anyone on a J1 research visa" Does that mean that u dont invite people with j1 research visa for interview or noone with j1 research has ever matched into ur program. The reason i am asking this is beacuse I am on a j1 research visa and I am scared that programs might not interview me just because of my visa status. You need to call ECFMG and clarify this for yourself. Call them - it's no big deal.
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| bbb IM Program Coordinator

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| | 07/29/07 - 11:51 AM  
 
|   #15 |
fox wrote: Also BBB, from a PC's point of view what documents were you required to submit (if you had handled such a case). Did your role end after issuing a letter of contract and the buck passed on to ecfmg? Were you required to furnish any other letters/ documents on behalf of the candidate?
We filled out a form, submitted a contract and that's all that I know of.
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| bbb IM Program Coordinator

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| | 07/29/07 - 11:52 AM  
 
|   #16 |
medmal wrote: J1 Visa is an exchange VISA....no matter what it is for..research or Clinical, once the purpose of the VISA is over, you will have to go back to your home country for the specified period of time ( 2 years )...only after this period can you apply for another J1 Visa....so there is a possibilty that you can get J1 clinical after you have been in a J1 research...but either you have to go back to your home country and stay for 2 years or get a waiver before you apply for the J1 clinical....and you cannot convert a J1 research into J1 clinical..... Thank you - I thought that this was correct.
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| doublhelix Forum Newbie
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| | 07/29/07 - 12:57 PM  
 
|   #17 |
Medmal, The 2 year home rule applies only if someone tries to change his category ie from j1 to h1, L1 and stuff. Moreover If the visitor had completed a previous J program in the U.S. as a Professor or Research Scholar, he/she is subject to a 24-months bar (gap) to start a new J-1 program as a Professor or Research Scholar. This 24 month bar is not the same as 2 year home rule. This simply means that you need to have a gap of 2 years between 2 subsequent visas regardless of whether one is subjected to 2 year home rule or not. But this is not the same as applying for a j1 clinical visa after finishing j1 research. Your 2 year home rule will be carried on to your new j1 clinical visa since you are on a j1 again and you dont have to wait for 24 months since that rule holds only for j1 professor or research scholar category.
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| amirhossein Forum Guru

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| | 07/29/07 - 01:05 PM  
 
|   #18 |
This is simple, If you are on J-1 research visa and ... 1. ... you get paid and there is record of that, you have to come back or 2 year return must get waived by Department of Homeland Security. 2. ... and you are working voluntarily, you can change the visa. Hint: Look at your DS-2019, there is checkmark that shows whether you are under 2 year home return or not.
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