Justice
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Hey guys...
I had a chance to speak PRIVATELY to one of the program directors (doesn't matter what program) and he said that it is ALMOST MANDATORY to waive the right to see/edit LOR... He said that he does not trust the letters which don't bear this statement... I know how sad this sounds, but please consider...
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| kakamath
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Hmmmm will keep that in mind thanks,...
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| Justice
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If you know somebody who will be writing a letter on your behalf, it is OK to make a draft but then allow the writer to edit it, sign it and seal the envelope... This model ascertains that you know what the letter say about you, but also fulfill the main requirement. Sorry, but that's what I was told...
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| GLO MD
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If an LOR is given to me directly from my LOR writer would it count if it's sealed...I mean does ECFMG counts it as waived or the only way to do this is if the LOR writer sends if directly to ECFMG?
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| Justice
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GLO MD wrote:
If an LOR is given to me directly from my LOR writer would it count if it's sealed...I mean does ECFMG counts it as waived or the only way to do this is if the LOR writer sends if directly to ECFMG?
It does not matter who sends the letter to ECFMG... If the letter was given to you in the sealed envelope, you can put the writer's name on the envelope and sent it out, and nobody will know that. The most important issue is to have the LOR request attached to the letter, and the LOR request must indicate that you waived your right to see the letter... In addition, the writer has to put a statement that you waived your right to review the letter... This is critical because ECFMG will scan only the letter not LOR request, and the program directors will see only what was scanned... Waiving the right does not make any difference to ECFMG, they just don't care of it, but the Program Directors do, and they want to see it in the letter...
In general, all letters are accepted... But, the statements that your are a brilliant student and insightful clinician will have much more weight if these statements are made confidentially...
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| GLO MD
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Ok I think I have get it now! Thank you very much for your repply Justice!
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| the_holy_man
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Justice wrote:
... In addition, the writer has to put a statement that you waived your right to review the letter... This is critical because ECFMG will scan only the letter not LOR request, and the program directors will see only what was scanned... Waiving the right does not make any difference to ECFMG, they just don't care of it, but the Program Directors do, and they want to see it in the letter...
I am not sure but I dont think LOR writer has to put this statement within the content of the letter. If the letter writer has attached a cover letter that says you have waived the right, ECFMG-ERAS will stamp this statement on top of that letter that reads that riight to see the letter have been waived by the applicant.
Am I right?
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| young_doc
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the_holy_man wrote:
I am not sure but I dont think LOR writer has to put this statement within the content of the letter. If the letter writer has attached a cover letter that says you have waived the right, ECFMG-ERAS will stamp this statement on top of that letter that reads that riight to see the letter have been waived by the applicant
Not sure, but if that was the case, the ECFMG cover letter wouldn't have as one of its instructions for the letter-writer, to WRITE IN THE LOR that the applicant waived their right to see it.
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| Tiger07
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Justice, it's your RIGHT to wave or not to wave. Read this: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=...
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| Justice
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Tiger, we are not talking about our rights, are we? Of course, we are in a free country and can do whatever we want provided that this whatever does not disturb others or make them thinking that you fake your document... I had an impression that those LORs that are not waived to be seen used to be more sweet about you and sound fake... Otherwise, your are welcome to see your LORs...
It is better to ask to write LOR only those, who you know are trustworthy...
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| linaorvos
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I didn't waive the right to one of my lor, and still it came to me with some problem in it....
I felt lucky that i didn't waive my right, otherwise it will influence my application.
one thing i don't know if it's ture or not, some of the american physicians have higher standard twds IMGs, so I guess I was not that good according to their criteria.
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| linaorvos
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besides if you waive you right, you will not be able to see it in the ERAS or can't ask them to return the letter back to you....right?
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| bbb
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Someone asked me to comment. My comment is based on my PD only - he doesn't care if a letter is waived or not, he doesn't pay attention to that.
He's more concerned with the content.
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| linaorvos
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thank you very much!!!
bbb. you rock!
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| zhaoju2000
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Can't waive the right to read those LoRs from my home country--I did the drafts
Not waiving the right will affect my chances of being selected more or less for sure, but in my case the only thing I can do is to prove the letters are true about me
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