Moslem Doctor Forum Senior
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| | 06/07/07 - 11:53 AM  
 
   
 
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either irritative or obstructive the intial tests are urine analysis and Cr then?.......(this according to UW) they say also old patient with irritative voiding symptoms and you did urine analysis and it was free and cultre free (although they said culture not done if normal urine analysis!) you must rule out bladder cancer by cystoscopy and cytology , and in the cases they always did before rectal exam and expressing and see WBC and culture for secretion , they they write statment at end of explanation , when patient old with irritative voiding and free urnine analysis and culture u have to rule out cancer !!! i got confused , can any one put a right approach to all that what first . rectal exam or urine analysis and Cr , and what next prostate expressing and see WBC and culture or cystoscopy ???! thanks
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| doyoudig Forum Guru
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| | 06/08/07 - 11:46 AM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
Its juts like u said Of course u will always do a Physical Initially then Initial - Cr and UA -If UA is + --> Next step Urine Culture -If Negtaive --> r/o Infection US/IVP are indicated if there are Structural complications that lead to recurrent UTI's or Complications of BPH. Indications are Cancer, Renal Insuff, Hematuria, Stones pls correct or add
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| Moslem Doctor Forum Senior
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| | 06/08/07 - 02:54 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
thanks dr Doyoudig but still what will be our approach for some one come with symptoms of irritative voiding (say prostatitis) first rectal exam then Urine analysis and Cr then>>>>>??? expressing prostate for analysis and culture or rule out cancer bladder by cystoscopy?
___________________ Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)." Holy Quran
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| arlete Attending in 2012!!!!!

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| | 06/08/07 - 03:45 PM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
Cystoscopy.
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| doyoudig Forum Guru
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| | 06/08/07 - 06:59 PM  
 
   
 
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ok if somone where to come in with typical Sx's of prostitis then 1st Creatine 2nd UA 3rd In all Cases of prostitis u can do Prostatic Massage to get secretions for Culture, except in Acute Prostatis u do a midstream Urine sample for culture b/c of the risk of septicemia Rememeber the P/E, then Labs such as Crea/BUN... UA are always the same Initially, what follows after that will depend on how the case is presented. You have to go thry all the UW question in Kidney and read ALL explantions so that u don't miss any info anyone else pls add
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