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i don`t know what is happening on this form or around me
i got 99 , 2 friends had the exam 1 week before me got 99 half of people here got 99 is that strange or what
i mean where r the people who make us get 99
when i got my results i though that so few get 99
but when i went to the exam score thread ,, everyone is getting 99
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| dncosta
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This is a selection bias, you can be sure that there are people getting 80s and 70s. It is mathematically impossible that the scores reported here truly represent the general population of applicants. I myself know some people that got 70s and low 80s...
Maybe they just think (wrongly, in my opinion) that their advices would not be as valuable (especially with all those 99s around).
Differently of some posts I've read, I don't think people are lying about their scores...
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| GOGETA
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So if we go just by statistics is mathematically impossible for me to fail my test next week, or pass in the70's just because I post here .
And dont you there reply to this post, my test is next week and Im going with the confidence of a LION
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| new_n_lost
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dncosta wrote:
This is a selection bias, you can be sure that there are people getting 80s and 70s. It is mathematically impossible that the scores reported here truly represent the general population of applicants. I myself know some people that got 70s and low 80s...
Maybe they just think (wrongly, in my opinion) that their advices would not be as valuable (especially with all those 99s around).
Differently of some posts I've read, I don't think people are lying about their scores...
R U REALLY SURE ABT THIS COS I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING
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No nnl, I am not sure... I just don't see a reason for lying... But, who knows?
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dnacosta, do you like dermatology?
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I am afraid of asking why... are you giving your exam next week? June 1st I'll be there, good luck to us!!!
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no the discrepancies lies in the fact that ppl start posting certain targets or guidelines which are impossible n then expect us to believe they have got great scores cos of the strenous or tedious timetable they have had adopted. Normally i dont bother with such experiences but if it motivates the other members i m fine with it but plz believe me when i say this its ur concepts n ur luck n ur presence of mind which actually gets u the higher score.
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Any idea of the motivation for lying? I can't think of one... At least not in a space like this forum, where the fact that you got a 99 won't make you different of someone who got a 75 or someone who did not pass (I don't see any advantage of making someone believe you got a higher score than you really did in this scenario). Maybe I am missing the point...
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Egos mate Egos
Feeling of Attachment and Accomplishment simply by fabricating a fantasy in therir minds which can be easily transfered to the Virtual World n nobody is there to crosscheck. Since i have become Moderator i have seen a lot ppl posting some really weird stuff n Suprisingly when they post the questions n their answers u can judge them by that only hence u get to know wht is the capability of the person. the reason we let ppl post a 99 experience a detailed one is that maybe some one who is reading this might get motivated n might do atleast half of it or atleast get some perspective of wht is to be done.
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i agree to nnl in a way! as nnl pm(ed) me and told me about one such incidence. this has made me to think that may be, just may be, due to euphoric state after getting high in 90's certain ppl cant handle it and they start posting what ever they feel like, knowing that there is no such thing as cross check over here.
but i believe better resources are available today! ppl have access to audios dvds lecture notes UW webpaths etc. IMG are studying thier butts off to get decent score and to compete in days ahead. this is making them score high 90's.
also id agree with the fact that unfortunately ppl in 80 or even early 90s do not post thier results and dissappear thinking thier score was too low to be of any ones interest and may be seeing too many 99s around it kills thier self confidence.
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Yes i hate to sound like a pessimist or a gloomy, cynical person or negative person but its true ppl do that n then unfortunately ppl who score low 90s n 80s dont get the courage to be proud of their score or atleast post that score i have actually promised myself wht ever score i get i m gonna scan it n then post it.
Yes i do believe that WE IMGs r studying our butts off to compete in the field n most of us get good scores. but then a few random ppl cruise by n say we did it in less kinda kill the Major Confidence
But I as always URGE the low 90s n 80s to post their scores n experiences it wud really make a lot of us happy n confident.
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guys ! ıdk ıf ur rıght or wrong about these ppl...only God knows and I wanna belıeve them cuz ppl to whom were gonna belıeve and trust as the helth stuff of the future cant be lyıng !!!
for me ... I swear I ll wrıte the most detaıled and happy exp even I pass wıth 75 although what I aım for ıs sometıng over 80... but ıf I ever faıl...then Ill need some recovery tıme I guess 
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i studied in kaplan centre at my place in bangalore..i studied at the place for one year.. a no of them joined but total percent of people getting 99 is less..in last two months in my centre they were 2-3 in step 1 and my friends who gave the exam with me i am the only one to get 99..those people who got less than 90.. just disappear.. i get to know there results from others( mean very close friends )..i know y u feel this cause no of them giving usmle has increased..lots are writing..well exams are easy but u cant give it with out good preparation dont get too confident..
well competition has increased so we need to work hard and u know scores are not the only thing
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| acid
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feyza i trust u
as the same about the score u told me this week .i think those 99 s r proud to write their score and the rest like 80 s dont.so i think most of the threads r correct.
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| inkspot
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also i was wondering if everyone is getting a 99 ( lets say ) than it means that the passing score and the score to get a 99 should go up. remember its the percentile system. but contrary to this its gone down recently which means a) AMG are having problem with exams b) not " every one " is getting 99s there are tons of others who get in 80 and many others who fail.
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feyza.basoglu ... i wish you something over 90 
dncosta ... im with you, i wish the 80ers post their experiences too.
new_n_lost ... sure, i dont see any good reasons to lie about the score but with seeing all of these sick weird people on youtube and all over aroud, you can expect anything! But i want to ask you something : What did you mean by the impossible guides and methods... too short, like 4-5 weeks or too hard with all the text books?
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Impossible Study Methods:- Looking into Different Books for eg for Physiology ppl recommend BRS or Ganong but wht actually i came across while studying was that BRS is too basic n is to be used for ppl who lack the concepts to go ahead while Ganong is only good for Particular topics such as Renal Respi and Endo otherwise the book is too long and the information is overwhelming now the Recent Exm Experiences have suggested they used BRS n Kaplan and Ganong which is virtually impossible. I have personally used Ganong during my Med School yrs so i know abt it a bit but my basic book was Kaplan if u know Kaplan inside out then looking into Ganong wont hurt for a couple of things but if u go thru Multiple resources then u r bound to be stuck in them n dragging along ur study time. n getting confused at the same time.
2nd exmple is Pathology I didnt go thru whole of Robbins i just did the part which were missing from Goljan n thats abt it.
then ppl say that they didit in under 4-5 wks thats virtually impossible unless u r an AMG or have studied in the Carribean cos they only follow the American Schooling system While rest of the world has kinda Adopted the British System. Now if that sort of a Person comes up n says that it took 4-5 wks of prep understandable cos U HAVE SPENT THE LAST 2YRS GOING THRU THE SAME BOOKS SO IT SHUD TAKE U 4-5 Wks but plz Mention this also as an Disclaimer alongwith ur experience. MAny of the Forum Seniors who gave step 1 before me told me in terms of Timeline that ur first read which includes reading Kaplan Notes n the DVDs takes almost 3.5-4mths provided u have studied for almost 8-12 hrs a day. Believe me i did follow that routine after 3.5 mnths i still had NeuroAnatomy to go thru.
I can assure u that if u have the time n the patience plz do go thru the routine u r used to not the one someone tells u cos it might not work for u. I also know some 99ers they spent almost a 8-10 mnths on Step 1 n they had only stressed on Concepts n thats abt it.
I not skeptical of everyone who comes up here on the forum and says that they have got 99 maybe they n like most of u i thought now y they lie to us for a silly thing cos its not gonna get them something but recently when the Other Forums got Shut for different reasons some elements came here to seek n enjoy the same crap here.
YouTube as my friend quotes is the place where almost every egomaniac lives and gets to do whtever he/she pleases it kinda boost him/her. Plz go thru the Previous Post in the Exm Experience See the Older Members they simply told wht score they have got whether its a 99 or not n the number of 99ers is also less then the recent last few mnths. I m not saying that the exm just became easier or the previous member hadnt studied well. its the combination of a lot of other factors which surmount to a great score.
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I agree with the concern people have about 99. I dont understand how and why everyone is getting a 99. To top the mystery is nbme's decision to lower the correlation....now 236 correlates with 99...Why?...i dont know.
Everyone i know who took exam recently said they got 99. A few others who are about to take the exam say anything less than 99 would be BAD.
If so many people are getting 99...shouldnt the board raise the passing minimum?...increase the difficulty...and more importantly...the MEAN should be more than 216...and 224?...i dont know.
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NnL , you definitely come across more people than I do . So I believe on your analysis but it hurts my heart to know that there are some people in the noble profession of medicine who do not feel any guilt to misguide others . 
At the same time , I want to say that everyone here does NOT lie. There are some people who in fact go through text books .  It is not that they want to , but they HAVE to. I have read Ganong and I am about to finish Robbins .
When I started my prep , I was not aware of the existance of Kaplan DVDs and when I tried to read Kaplan notes , I was not understanding much . So I picked up Ganong and covered about 2/3 rd of it when I came to know about the DVDs . Dr. Dunn teaches so well that I did not have to read the rest of the Ganong. When I started Pathology , I started with Goljan and liked his style very much but again felt that I was not understanding him much . You have to know your basic pathology to go with Goljan. So I picked up Robbins . Similarly I had to read Lippincott's for biochem and Pharma. Now I do not know what will future bring for me . Whether I will score in 70's or 90's. I do not even know if I will pass this test or not. But whatever the outcome would be , I will share with you guys and when I write my exam experience some day , I will mention that I had to go through all the text books and I will not be lying.
Now I want to share the story of another person . I apologise in advance if I sound like boasting . ( I honestly do not mean to boast but just want to let you guys know that this kind of people do exist ) My husband who scored a 247 in step 1, a few years ago , studied for 2.5 months with a full time job. He studied every evening for about 5-6 hours . Now his background is , that he was the best graduate of his class with 12 medals and distinctions . He has very clear concepts and keeps telling me ( like Goljan ) Concepts, Concepts and Concepts.
So , you see two people living under the same roof but methods and time taken for the prep are oceans apart.
Now the moral of the story : this exam basically depends on your concepts. If you already have solid concepts and have worked hard in your med school, you do not have to read the text books and do not have to spend years preparing for the exam. On the other hand if you did not work hard in the past , you will have to do it now. There is no short cut to success.
Good luck to all of us.
Edited by unique1 on 05/25/07 - 03:31 PM
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| arlete
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I got 207/84 in step 1. I am not ashamed at all, since I studied Basic Sciences exactly 20 years ago and never used most of it.
But people do strange things when they are anonimous, including lying and much worse, go figure...
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thanx acid and prfor99
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new_n_lost ... I get what your saying and ((i think)) i know how your feeling. Like your working so hard on your prep. and you know exactly how much time, effort and dedication it takes to get somewhere decent in the prep. Then, comes these people out of no where with 99s whom claim they only studied for a couple of weeks!!! I mean i would really feel like hitting my head on the wall! but what can you do they may, perhaps or could be saying the truth! So, as you said previously just stick to the plan that suits you best. -note-: i enjoy reading your analysis and reasoning alot.
unique1 ... Good for you !!! I only remember once when i read only one whole chapter from Ganong at once but going through the whole thing, that is big !!! Some questions rise here if you dont mind... (1) How long did that take you? (2) How in the world were you planning to review it if you havent heared of Dr.Dunn's DVDs and Kaplan LN? (3) Now that you have tried both methods, do you recomend reading the whole text - I have time - or you think mastering Kaplan is more useful?
Edited by praying4a99 on 05/25/07 - 04:22 PM
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