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Hi egy, welcome here friend   ,
how is studying with you these days ?
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| doctor_mhl
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eh ya gma3a han2or walla eh?
just kidding,  i'm sure if you ask again you ll convince them . try hard and fight for it. and if you are not a 6th year student you still in the safe side
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| salehhero
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Hello all Egyptian USMLERS
I wish you all the best in USMLE. According to my experience , you have to secure a visa for CS first to avoid the frustrating suituation of mine. Here is my experience and your suggestions are welcomed. You may send me e mail if you are interested salehhero@yahoo.co.uk
I reapplied (((third time))) for the visa in Cairo, Egypt . I gave the officer a strong financial file and academic file containing the following :
1.Letter from the dean to the consul general indicating that : I am a resident in University hospital , about to finish master degree in hepatology , doing research work " Effects of Aging on GIT ",
2.Acceptance letter for observership in a big hspital in USA
3.Scheduling permit , confirmation and visa letter sent by ECFMG for USMLE Step 2 CS .
4.Proof of passing USMLE Step 1 & 2 CK .
5. A copy of my medical diploma .
6.CV.
7.Testimonial from my supervisor professor ( member of the American Association of Gastroenterology).
8. Testimonial from the Dean of my institution .
9.Itinerary of the booked flight .
I am refused again without any apparent reason (item 214 b).The visa officer was not convinced that I would come back to Egypt after visiting US. I was clear in my suituation and honest . But I do not know how to convince them ?
What to do now ? Is it over ? Is it impossible for a scientific man to enter USA ?
Some people advised me to be married either to Egyptian woman (which is an evidence of strong tie to be issued a non immigrant visa) or American woman (to be issued immigrant visa). I do not approve these ideas. Marriage is not business affair. Really I may get benifit if I marry an American woman. But It is difficult for me to find Muslim arab American woman , the one I can trust to raise up my children on our morals.
I think it may be more appropriate for me now to go through MRCP. What do you think?
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| Mezo
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Dear Salehhero,
I can understand what u r going through now, but here is my remarks to ur situation ...
1) this is a very bad time to apply for a visa, changing the embassador, every consular is afraid to issue visa and if u checked, u'll find that the refusal rate is very high these days, u r not the 1st case that i hear off, they are awaiting for the new embassador, that will check on their work and they don't know about his way of working, so they just play it safe and refuse everyone.
2) multiple cause for travelling is not advisable, they don't like that, best is to just tell them that u r going for the the CS and don't show both score reports unless they asked u, i mean they will look and c that u r going to do step2cs and will ask u, did u do step1 , u will answer yes and show them the report and don't volunteer and show them Step2ck, as it will make them ask how many steps r there? and what is the game u r playing ?? they r not that aware of the USMLE system ...
3) getting married is a very good tie, from ur case, i don't c anything that can preclude u from getting married, u r a university resident and about to finish it, y don't u get married to an Egyptian Muslim girl of what u r looking for ??? u'll eventually, so y don't u take this step now ?? what is holding u ??
4) doing MRCP now is not advisable, u've the option to go to Newzeland, they accept USMLE step1 & 2CK and ask u to do NZRX clinical exam. instead of CS ... u'll be required to do IELTS 1st, then apply and after application u'll have the chance to have an observership in NZ to prepare urself to the test and actually with ur experience u can get a job as an Internal Medicine resident there, or at least a GP for a while ... here is the link for NZ medical council ...
http://www.mcnz.org.nz/
and u can check NZ yellow pages and search for a job and by the way u go there as immigrant and the pay is good as a GP u get about 4000-5000 NZ $ / month ...
Good luck
Edited by Mezo on 04/25/08 - 11:07 PM
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| dr_elrifai85
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i hav the same problem of slahhero
bu i hav asilly Q
can i apply 4 avisa form another countery as sudia arabia? travel 2 kSA and apply 4 visa there
or i must apply 4 it from my home countery egypt?
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| Mezo
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@ dr_elrefai85
U can but they won't issue a visa, coz u don't have strong ties to KSA, a friend of mine who is working in KSA and did USMLE there and applied for visa from there, they refused coz he don't have strong ties to KSA, so he travelled back to Egypt and applied from here with the same documents, issued a visa for 3 months for him... travelled, examined and came back back, applied again and got it this time for 5 yrs .. 3o2bal 3andokom game3an ISA.
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| dr_elrifai85
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thanx 4 that mezo i hope mrgrit scopy will b good like francis
wait and see
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| Mezo
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u r welcome brother, glad that i helped
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| maoudoody
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Mezo wrote:
.. 3o2bal 3andokom game3an ISA.
yes i agree
just the first time
if u took the visa and didnot violate it u wil be issued multiple entery visa in the next time
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| nany
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I didn't ever imagin that such a thing can happen  ,
in the past I was thinking that if you have an exam in US then they must give you the visa,why would they cause you to lose your money or your exam?!!  .........,
but now I figured out that life is unfair   
Edited by nany on 04/27/08 - 12:26 AM
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| salehhero
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Mezo,
Thank you for your kind reply. I appreciate your sincere advice.
dr_elrifai,
If you want to apply for US visa from KSA, you must have strong ties there(as Mezo told you).If you hold a contract for working in a hospital in KSA (with good salary) , it will be strong supportive point on application. I wish you the best. I have added you to yahoo msn. I hope we meet online.
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| Mezo
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@ Salehehero,
Ya basha u r more than welcome and don't forget that we r all in the same boat, and this is not the 1st case i hear of, this is happening since january, untill now about 7 of my friends including u both got rejected, and I even have a friend who got matched on a J1 visa and he is so afraid to apply now for a visa .. it is like a Fever of rejection in the embassy in these days, and till now the new embassador didn't come, we r waiting to her .. i think in a month or so, things will start to get better ISA ... but plz guys keep us posted about ur outcome, we should be figuring out a way out of this together ISA ..
and regarding KSA, even with a good salary, it is difficult to grant u a visa, my friend was working as a resident Dr. in 1 of the biggest medical centers there, and his bank account was so good and still didn't get convinced with his ties, and he got it from here ... Actually, currently i'm starting to get a beleive that marriage is the best tie that one can ever get, however, i sometimes think again and have this thought => but what if i got matched and then theny issued me a J1 visa and didn't issue J2 to my wife, just to be sure that i'll come back ??? they sometimes do that ?? so, i'll be married over mails .. hehehehe
@ Nany,
don't worry about the money, ECFMG will refund it, anyone who unfortunately went through this just will have to wait till the end of his/her eligibility period then mail them and they will send a check with all the money with no cuttings at all, the poor person will just lose the money s/he paid for the embassy interview .... just focus on ur exam. then the visa is another story, when u come to this stage, we will c how it will go, the circumstances differ from day to day, just speed up and Make a lot of DOAA To ALLAH to help u ISA
Edited by Mezo on 04/27/08 - 06:59 AM
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| maoudoody
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one of my step1 friends got his score today
81
after 7 months studying kaplan , qbank , fa , uw 2006
81!!!!!!
thanx board guys!!!!!!
it turned out that dr goljan was right when he said those board guys do all they can to screw out our scores!!!!
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| nany
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wy don't you say that people differ in their abilities maoudoody ? and no one is like the other,
and may be 2 used exactly the same preparation material and the same time and toke the same exam and each one gets completely different score than the other cause no one is like the other...,
so I think that neither the good score of others should make us confident nor the bad score of should make us dissappointed, just you'll get what you deserve....
just my opinion guys
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| Mezo
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Allah yetamenek ya maoudoody, howa ana na2es ya3ny .... Step1 is so difficult, lots and lots of memorization and the qs in just 1 minute 12 seconds = 72 seconds, u've to read the q, diagnose then choose the ttt if it is a pharma q, then answer the q about the mech. of action or Side effects or anything ... in step2 u just stop at choosing the ttt and it is not that difficult in study, smaller curriculum and u r more familiar with it .... and my score in UW is so refreshing in the 30s adn 40s, I don't know how am gonna survive this ????
any ideas?? any advice ???
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| FaddyAcids
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81 is not so bad.. let him rock step 2, spend more money on applying to more programs in less competitive fields and go for anything.. besides couple of shots would make him feel he got 99
I would like to see my old friends in here by the way, if u wanna add me on facebook search for Fady Fayez.. ana same pic.. just tell me ur nickname here so i know which of you..
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| FaddyAcids
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30's 40's after reviewing everything? u should make UW ur last tool... i beleive if you're in late 40's you gonna pass the exam..
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| maoudoody
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NANY: this friend was a good student in the medical school he got high 80 very good marks
mezo : i am totally in the same boat...depressed now after i heard the result of my friend..afraid to spend all these months studying and then get screwed up!!
faddy:it is not just the low score...it just he spent 7 months studying and do all this stuff
so was wondering wat we should do then!!!!!
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| Mezo
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It is my last stage actually, but the qs r too difficult, most of what i solved till now only 30-40% of people got correct, my subscription is extending till the exam. ... just did 250qs ... dividing my day between solving and reviewing ... hope it works and by the end i get to increase my scores ... but i hate memorization so much, and every word in step1 carries a potential q , every word, every word, wallahy every word ...
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| Mezo
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maoudoudy, it is not just about what u did, it is how u did it ... i mean if u solved all these qs and u didn't learn from them then it is just the same as if u didn't do them from the start, it was a big waste of time, it is not an easy task, i know, but u gotta do those not like a routine ur doing, but u gotta learn and build up ur knowledge by time ..
The thing that worries me the most ia that there is no available dates till july, i wanna postpone my exam so badly, but i can't ... So, i'm stuck and have to make my day 48 hrs to catch up, which is impossible, I don't know what to do ???!!! Rabena yostor ..
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| maoudoody
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my friend told me that another guy was taking the exam with him and it happened that he solved uw 2008 and he got 99 on the same exam same day
so he said uw 2006 not sufficient
dont know if the difference between uw 2008 and 2006 could make 99-81 score difference or just they r different guys!!!!
so mezo cheer up someone got 99!!!!!
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| FaddyAcids
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Depression, obsessions and hoplessness are totally physiological pre-USMLE symptoms
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| Mezo
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even moudoudy if he didn't solve UW at all, i have 2 friends who got 97 and 91 on step1 and UW for step1 wasn't available yet, as i said it is not how much did u do?? it is how u do it ?? may be ur friend didn't accustomed himself on time constraints and so couldn't manage it well in the exam., also don't forget that the exam. is adaptive, i mean it keeps asking u in the same topics u miss in, that happened with me in step2 where in the1st block from the stress i misplaced my answer in one of the q, when i got in break, i remembered the correct one, got into the 2nd block to find another 2 qs in the same topic, i got them right this time, then they never asked me in it again in the whole test, instead kept asking me in OB/GYN workups, which i couldn't review well b4 the exam. which dropped my score so much, so i think it also carries some kind of luck where u've been asked 1st in the topics that u mastered not the weak areas ...
Yeh Fady, typical symptoms but real fears too, real pathology not malingering
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| nany
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Mezo wrote:
, also don't forget that the exam. is adaptive, i mean it keeps asking u in the same topics u miss in, that happened with me in step2 where in the1st block from the stress i misplaced my answer in one of the q, when i got in break, i remembered the correct one, got into the 2nd block to find another 2 qs in the same topic, i got them right this time, then they never asked me in it again in the whole test,
 is this true ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| dr_elrifai85
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afriend of mine got 97 and his fiance 96
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