doctor_mhl
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oh god!!! this realy sucks
if it is not considered last year , then we cant do electives at all
cause i'm in 6th year and there is only a month vacation between it and el emtiaz
and they need shool transcript and preparation for months
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| FaddyAcids
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i guess u still have some time... ur done on december right? but u have to do it before u finish ur last year.. summer is usually a bad time for electives and many hospitals dont offer rotations for IMS in summer so i guess September would be fine for u..
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| doctor_mhl
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ya basha the last day of my exams will be in Jan 2009
and el emtiaz in Mar 2009.
and i can't go there before my exams , i could fail
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| FaddyAcids
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just try to make it as early as possible.. man if u get a chance to do electives there just do it
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| doctor_mhl
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i hope i could i'll try and leave it to ALLAH
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| FaddyAcids
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good luck sadeeky
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| doctor_mhl
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you too man
thnx for help
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| Mezo
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mhl ... If u r really determined in pursuing ur way in this track, then electives will be a gr8 kick up for ur CV, and u should de ur best to get one, even if u gonna postpone ur final exams. 6 months just to do elective ... try ur best buddy ... Salam
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| doctor_mhl
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mezo pasha , i'm determined but its a tough decision , even if i agreed my parents will never ever agree
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| nany
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mhl...you can start your emteyaz later than march 1st, I had lot of friends in emteyaz took it 6 months later and then they finish it 6 months later than us and start eltakleef later than us [ zay matkoon dor tany ]
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| doctor_mhl
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can i do tis nany without postpone my exams?
this would be niceeeeee
anyway , i'll ask in the next few days in the college and i'll try to figure something out
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| nany
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I'm not sure mhl , but if I was you and I had this opportunity and it requires me to postpone my exams "I WILL DO IT ", few months is nothing, and finally you'll get your final diploma like any one and start eltakleef like any one , but you'll be very thankfull later to have this USCE in your hands if you intend to go and work abroad later on...
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| maoudoody
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yeh u can postopone ur emtyaz without postponing the exams
but man once u finished 6th year exams u will be a graduate
internship is not part of the certificate
so the only way i see is to postpone ur exams to may
and arrange for electives in the earlier dec-feb
cause this period u know the christmas and is not atall favourable by american medical students
this is the only way i see
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| nany
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I have a question egyptians.....
I was completing the online application to pay for the exam and they ask me " the date my final diploma issued "
I have elshahada elkarton with me but I don't know what is this date? is it the date of graduation? but they asked for the date of graduation in different question....and elshahada elkartoon has 2 dates in it......can any one help me with this?
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| FaddyAcids
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what u mean by 2 dates? dates of what? i think the certificate should have the date of release, did you read well?
when i was doing the first printed application with ostaz salah in school (that was rejected and mailed back to me anyway), he was telling me to put the date of expected grad Jan 2010, and diploma released on June or so.. but i think these stuff dont make any difference anyway, they just want to know whether your country requires a year of internship after grad to give you the diploma or not..
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| Mezo
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graduation date is the date of 6th yr exam. usually Nov.- Dec. .... Issue date is the date it is signed and stamped in ... they say Magles el faculty egtama3 and granted the diploma for u on ... mine was graduation date Nov. 2002 ... Issue Date was Sept. 2003 ...
hope that helped
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| nany
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allah yenawwar 3aleek ya Mezo..., howwa da elmatloob belzabt
thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx 
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| Mezo
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Glad to help ... when do u plan to book ur test ISA ???
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| nany
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[ june-july-august ]
but my eyes are on the begining of July ISA
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| nany
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another question guys.....,
they're asking about clerckships and saying they're any pregraduate clinical rotations.....are the 3 final clinical years [ 5 , 6 , 7 ] considered clerckship ???
thanks again
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| FaddyAcids
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the clinical rotations that are taken in 4th, 5th and 6th years.. of those that are considered core clerkships for them are IM, Ped, Ob/Gyn, Surgery, Neurology and Psychiatry.. but these are graduate rotations..
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| nany
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they are not graduate they are pregraduate Faddy, or what?
so do I check that I had clerckship for 3 years or what? I don't know what to do
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| FaddyAcids
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what was their question in the first place? of course say yes you had all your core clerkships before graduation.. but those are not considered pregraduate but graduate rotations.. pregraduate refers to the 4 years of premedicine that they take in the US before going to medical school..
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| nany
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they question was " did I had clerckships before ?" and then they explained what they mean by clerckship saying that it's [clinical rotations required to be completed as a student as pregraduate rotations ]...., so I checked saying that I had 3 years referring to my final 3 years....am I right ?!
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yes you are
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