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| nany
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Hi Egyptian Doctors 
I was wondering if any one can help me to know exactly what are the documents needed to apply for the exam.......may be in arabic
I applied for the original atatement of Graduation and will get it soon...but I know that there are lot of other documents needed...
can any one tell me what they are exactly?...from where do I get them?...are they needed only in english or also in arabic ?
I approciate your help, and thank you in advance.
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| FaddyAcids
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There is not many documents needed,,, u apply online and if ur student u have to get them a certification statement which says that ur officially enrolled in med school then ECFMG will verify it with ur medical school... If ur a graduate u get ur diploma and again they will verify it.. this is the only paper that has to be sent by mail...u do everything else online
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| FaddyAcids
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if ur in ain-shams go to ostaz Sala7 fe sho2oon el talaba..howa bye3mel el 7agat dy 
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| FaddyAcids
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btw i just wanted to tell u that what u put as a signature does not apply to Egyptians:
1. Definitely not anyone can get 99!!
2. We are not doctors
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| nany
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thank you FaddyAcid for your reply
Actually I graduated last year from Alexandria university.....
and I heared that I have to send them the official english transulation of my original graduation statement together with the number of hours and some other things I don't remember...
I just don't want to find out that I missed something and then waste some extra valuable time.
and about my signature:
any smart intellegant hard worker egyptian doctor can get 99 with good planning and detemination, and with god help.
and ....we are doctors, but we just don't know
thank you again for your reply..
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| FaddyAcids
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I am not really aware of the documents you have to send if you are a graduate because I took step 1 when I was in 4th year. But you can look what exactly they need you to submit at ECFMG website:
http://www.ecfmg.org/usmle/index.html
And here is where you apply for the test:
https://secure2.ecfmg.org/emain.asp?app=iwa
And about your signature:
I think I have the characters you have mentioned above expect I am still a student and I didnt get 99,, I got 89!! But I am happy with it.
Again I tell you DEFINITELY NOT ANY DOCTOR CAN GET A HIGH SCORE!! I took the exam and I know what I am talking about. I am not shooting you down but I just want you to realize that this is an extremely tough exam and needs A LOT of hard preparations!!
If you have any questions it will be my pleasure if I can help you out.
Good Luck!!
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| nany
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thank you Faddy for your time and help
I looked at the site and wrote down all the needed stuff 
I totally agree with you that not any doctor can get 99.....I don't say that just becoming named as doctor because of being graduated makes you a good nor preliant doctor....
but I just believe that if you want to do some thing you can do it...what ever thing in this life and you want it to death.., don't tell me that any one can stop you....
of-course any thing happens with god welling...and all the circumstances around you can affect the outcome......but I don't like excuses...and believe that when you fail of getting what you wanted, then it is your falt no thing else....
and also by the way, it doesn't have to be 99 to get good residency 
in the interview...,without your personality...your smart wide open eyes..., your determination and believing in what you do....you can through your 99 away and go do something else.
Sorry for talking toooooo much...
thank you again for your help ,
Best Of Luck
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| FaddyAcids
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Thats a great post ur right!!
rabena m3aki
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| ahly_united
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Hi guys
I am Mansoura University graduate..finished my exams early this year..well i am planning to take the step 1 after 5-6 months(didn't schrdule yet)..i just have a couple of questions
1-Are kaplan notes enough?
i've got it in all specialities in addition to Goljan in pathology
2-if i completed step 2 in October..could i catch the CS exam and enter the 09match?
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| FaddyAcids
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1. Kaplan notes are not enough.
Here is what I did to give you an idea: kaplan notes with its DVDs,, kaplan Qbook,, Kaplan Qbank,, USMLE WORLD and some other small tests.
2. If you are applying for 2009 Match you should have all your steps done by August 2008. Being ECFMG certified early will greatly increase your chances of matching. However, there are few programs that do not require ECFMG certification at the time of application, although YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED BEFORE ROL (RANK ORDER LIST) DEADLINE WHICH IS USUALLY ON LATE FEBRUARY.
3. For IMGs, step 1 needs at least 6 months to prepare.
4. Many programs require some USCE in order to get some letters of recommendation from US physicians which will also greatly increase your chances so you may want to consider that.
Good Luck!!
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| FaddyAcids
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man wait i think I misunderstood,,, kaplan notes are enough as a studying source,,, homma molakhaseen but the reason they r good en homma mashyeen ma3 el DVDs,, i personally think you should study from only one source otherwise it would be a waste of time,, plus el mawdoo3 mo3atamed aktar 3ala el MCQs,, you have to do like 5000 MCQs (Qbook + Qbank + usmleworld)
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man banat el mansoura 7elween??
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| mildanemia
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@Faddy, I thought you had a Russian gf ?
@Nany
It's a very simple and easy process, Faddy already sent you the list of requirements and that should be fine. However another thing you can do is to go to your Faculty of Medicine and visit the Student Affairs office, there should be an employee that is responsible for replying to the ECFMG and handles all the international equivalence exams and boards. Ask that person what to do and he should be able to help you as well. Just be patient and determined to get everything out of that underpaid overworked official.
Of course if you have any issues there are several people here that can help you out review your application and documents before you submit them, that way we'll be able to save you the hassle of resending any missing documents and paying extra cash.
Keep us posted
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| nany
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But I'm Graduated..., I think I should go to the " Graduates Affair Office "
thank you for offering this mildanemia......, it's going to be a great help for me
there is one question.......,in the site of ECFMG....one of their requirments is " Final Medical School Transcript "....Does any one knows what this means in Arabic ???!!!!!  
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| ahly_united
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Thanx Fady for ur reply
yea i got Kaplan Q book and bank beside the notes and will get the usmle world soon...i just mean those DVDs...are they a must or not cuz i realy can't study by listinng or watching audios & videos
[quote]If you are applying for 2009 Match you should have all your steps done by August 2008.[quote]
u r killing me
i thought the deadine is in November
[quote]man banat el mansoura 7elween??[qoute/]
gamdeen
ma 3ada tab3an banat koleyet el 6eb
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| FaddyAcids
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@ MildAnemia, I had a russian gf last summer but I dont mind having another okka from Mansoura in winter looooooooool!! How did you know that??
@ Nany, Medical School Transcript is a document that shows your grades in medical school ( bayan daragat 7aga keda)...but I thought you submit this doc for ECFMG certification not on applying for the exam...u make sure.
@ Ahly-united, the first step in preparing for the exam is listening to the Lectures and studying the notes..the DVDs will help you a lot.
The deadline of ECFMG certification is actually before ROL, otherwise ECFMG will automatically withdraw you from the Match. But the sooner the better chances of matching b/c as I told you some programs will not even consider you application if you are not certified, and therefore they will not invite you to be interviewed. Interviews are usually on Dec-Jan.
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| FaddyAcids
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When I said the deadline of ECFMG certification I meant the deadline to be ECFMG certified.
sadeeki..
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| FaddyAcids
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@ Mildanemia I have a dumb question. You cannot take Step 3 in Egypt, right??
@ Ahly-united, usmleworld is a another Qbank on the internet..you can only have access to it when you make an account,, it was 50 bucks a month on March.
www.usmleworld.com
@ Nany, the document you have to send is a Certification of Identification Form (Form 186). You download it and print it from the internet after after completing the online part of the application.
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| mildanemia
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@Nany
Yes you are correct it's the "Graduate Affairs" office, I got mixed up because both of them are in the same office at my University. When you apply for the test on IWA you will be given a form 186 that you must take to the Graduate Affairs office, you'll have to get it stamped and signed by the Dean. It's a stupid time-consuming process but we all have to go through it. After you get that document signed you will need a few other documents like the 344 and 345 and a copy of your Final Medical Diploma "el shehada el karton"; the diploma you got at the end of the 6.5yrs of studying. You will be required to send 2 copies of one or both of those documents.
After the ECFMG receives your application and the application has been processed you will receive an email that notifies you of your eligibility to schedule a date for the exam. The exam registration ends here.
ECFMG Verification of Medical Education:
After that the next step will be on behalf of the ECFMG; they will send a letter to your Faculty that will end up at the official that is responsible for all the international exams, etc... They send about 6 green papers for them to fill out and verify that you are indeed the person you claim to be. The official will then ask you for the Original Final Medical Diploma to verify that the copy you sent them with your application is valid. You will also have to send one more document; A document that states the credit hours of all the subjects you took and their grades. I have read that they require an official translation of the Final Medical Diploma but I'm not sure if it is relevant or not.
Faddy, I got a dc.
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| mildanemia
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I'm not sure if you can take Step 3 in Egypt. It's an MCQ exam so you probably can, the best way to find out is to call Amideast or email them. I believe that the only purpose of Step 3 is to get an H-Visa, correct me if I'm wrong.
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| maoudoody
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just study and solve as much mcqs as u can
and god will reward u if u make effort and do ur best
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no
step 3 only held in usa
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| FaddyAcids
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MildAnemia did you take any externships in US? As you know my status, when do you advice me to take it? And should I aim for a surgical USCE if I want to apply for GS? Or will any externship have advantages in all specialties?
I heard that I have to take it when I am still a student because if I wait until I graduate I will not be eligible for externships, I can only have observerships which is almost of no value.
I am thinking of traveling during 6th year for couple of months to get an externship and take Step 2 CS, then I take CK after I come back during el emteyaz. What do you think?
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| mildanemia
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No, I've only got a single observership in the US. I do however have several hands on experience in the UK, they might not be as valuable as USCE but I'd like to believe that they are worth something. If you want GS then you'd have to get an externship in that specialty because that will show that someone in that specialty has worked with you and thinks that you have what it takes to be successful in that field.
As a student it's easier(but still hard) to get hands on USCE, during your 6th year would be a good time to apply especially because you want Surgery which is a 6th year subject. Some of the programs require step 1 and 2 ck transcripts and others require you to have completed your core rotations. The US medical school curriculum is different from that of Egypt, we finish our core rotations; Surgery, Medicine, Psychiatry, OBGYN and Peds at the end of the 6th year. That makes it harder for us to get the USCE.
You could do your step 2 CS while you're in the states during your 6th year but it would be riskier then but with proper preparations I guess it would be ok. Step 2 cs is based on your knowledge of Different disease and what makes each and every one of them unique in their own way. It would be best if you took step 2 cs during your emteyaz year, that way you'd have gained some clinical experience and at the same time completed OBGYN and Surgery.
Since your a 5th year student I guess you could visit the local bookshop and buy FA for CS and use it as a guide to develop your history taking technique. I benefited from FA more than I did during my whole 5th year. I felt more confident and competent at history taking after reading the book. During my 5th year final clinical exam the patients had to be bribed to give you any information, it's a scam and we the students are the ones that suffer the consequences.
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