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Thanx ya man and cheer up , Ma7adesh wa7'ed Menha 7aga
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| maoudoody
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mezo
u have done step 2 and now going for 1
so it is better to think of new zeland if u r thinking of plan b
new zealand medical council accepts usmle exams step 1 and 2ck as a prerequesite to take their clinical exam
but u should ask also about the situation there
is it easy to get a job after nzrex clinical
i dont know about that in particular
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| nany
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it's great that there are plan-Bs other than USA....,this makes situation more assuring not as id not in USA we will not find something to eat 
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| FaddyAcids
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Plan B tani? e7na fe 7arb hena? plan C would be ghazw new zealanda
nany wrote:not in USA we will not find something to eat
This is already the case.. All or None!
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| Mezo
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I heared before about newzeland but ...
i heared also that they don't accept usmle anymore, and they don't have an Embassy here in Egypt, u've to travel to UAE to issue u a visa and that the Flight to newzeland costs about 15000 EGP....
Also heared that, they have only 2 faculties of medicine and that ur opportunities as an IMG are not well, u get stuck working as a Houseofficer i.e. Imtiaz till u get registered with the inviersity fro a speciality which is difficult ....
I'm not sure of all of that, i was studying step2 with a friend whose husband did usmle, he wanted Ob/GYN so much, he couldn't match in USA and so he tried Newzeland ... and that's what she was telling me 2 yrs ago, then i didn't hear from her since that ...
Actually, i don't have time to search for more infos right now but here is the link for NZ Medical council ... if anyone reached any more infos plz tell us .... here is the link =>
http://www.mcnz.org.nz/
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| FaddyAcids
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Do you know what troubles he had matching into Ob/Gyn and his USMLE scores? cause I know OB is generally one of the least competitive specialties in the states..
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| Mezo
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his scores were low 80s i think it was 83 & 80, and he had an observership in Mount Sinai mini residency program ... And who told u that Ob/Gyn is leat competetive ??? It's one of the surgical residencies group, may be the lowest in the group but still not from the ones that IMGs can aim for .... The least competetive for IMGs are Pysichiatry, Pathology, family Medicine, internal Medicine, Pediatrics and i think Anaesthiology too ... other than that is preferred by Americans graduates and by program directors to hire americans ....
I've a friend who got 83/94/pass .... with an observership in Clevland clinic international ( which is ranked 3rd in the whole world ) and applied to 65 programs all in medicine and didn't get any interviews .... all now says that it is all about connections ... if u know anybody, ask for his/her help .... i'm not saying that to depress u but to know what are u going to face and to plan for alternatives like i'm searching now for best plan B ...
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| FaddyAcids
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Although you know I love to argue with you brother Mezo but I cant stand it right now cause I'm very much fucked up in the head ya sadeki..
This link shows the 2007 Match outcomes:
http://medicine.osu.edu/sitetool/sites/pdfs/stude...
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| Mezo
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Gamed Awy El Link dah... i c ur point now and it is so encouraging ... and i see that internal medicine is more competetive than i thought ...
Thanks ya sadeky
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| maoudoody
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anaesthesia r not competitve!!!!!!
man the base salary is 350k
and some anaesthetists make 700k
it is the fourth competitive residency
also pathology is competitive cause of the life style
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| maoudoody
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but doing the internship in nz will be very valued on ur cv
it is a western country
also ur salary ranges from 40-50 k nz dollars
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| Mezo
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Well i think, it is not only about the salary, Anesthiology is one of the most stressful residencies , with lots of shifts and lacks the glory of surgical residencies ... that's y americans don't compete for it like other specialties
Also, pathology jobs after u finish ur resiency are so little and most competetive and no Dr.-pt. relationship which is valued by lots and also lacks the glory of surgery ...
Look don't measure it by ur standards, it differs from how the Americans think ...
Look the following list is in the FA of step2ck ...
The Least Competitive specialties are => Pediatrics, Family Practice, Internal Medicine, Anesthesiology, Psychiatry
More Competitive are => Emergency Medicine, Ob/Gyn, Radiology, General Surgey
Most competitive are => Dermatology, ENT, Orthopedics, Opthalmology
They missed some specialties ofcourse , but in general this is a rough estimate
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Hey guys wutsup! I need some advice, ive been studying for step 1, and am in 6th year med school, last year ya3ni.. but the thought of dropping step 1 and switching over to step 2 ck keeps popping in my head... I read a few places that many ppl think its better to do step 1 first then 2, others say it doesnt matter, what do you guys think, considering the stuff they teach us here in egypt..i hope some one can help...thanks a lot 
Oh yeah, mezo about the emswp..it that you have to send them a paper the first time then its valid for 5 years for taking exams, and all that you have to do is verify through your university by them using the web portal on line rather than sending papers back and forth after you sent the paper the first time. But in order for you to be able to use this.. you need to talk to an authority in your university to send an email to ecfmg and ask them how to set up the account like the procedure of getting the username and password inshaa Allah.. i plan on doing this with our university sometime this week hopefully itll work out, but they are so lazy here, THANK GOD its free otherwise who knows what would of happened lol.. btw if your univeristy doesnt do it its ok...you can still use the method by mail just like before the web portal its just that the web portal save so much more time, eg. you dont have to wait for the papers to go back and forth. Please some one reply to my first paragraph...
Edited by srac84 on 02/22/08 - 01:02 PM
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| FaddyAcids
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I would prepare for step 2 if I were you because the subjects are still fresh and it would benefit you in last year of med school..
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| Mezo
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Dear srac84,
No, i prefer follwoing the normal order, Step1 then 2, although it is tempting to start with 2 as the info are fresh in ur mind but the problem is =>
In the real exam. u get so many qs based on ur step1 knowledge especially in genetics and immunology and lots of pathophysiology as well ... so these topics well lower ur step2 score if u don't know them well, and if u manged to know them well, then u r actually done with about 60% of step1 curriculum so y not to continue and do step1???
Then doing step2 after 1 will be a piece of cake for u and u'll finish it in so short time with flying scores even with less study, on the contrary if u did step2 then step1, u'll take so much time in doing both and mastering them .... that's all i can say, i did step2 1st and that was my biggest mistake .... plz don't repeat it ...
Thanks for the reply about emswp .....
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| FaddyAcids
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dude step 1 also has "LOTS" of clinical issues that are taken in step 2, i've taken step 1 first and i think this is my mistake as well
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| Mezo
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In step1 u only need from step2 to have the ability to diagnose the case presented & u can get that from solving a lot of qs, u'll get to acquire the clinical sense ... i mean with time u acquire the abiltiy to guess what is the case from the 1st few lines, it is all about key words once u know them u r done & it is not a problem for u anymore .... and if it is so difficult for u u can only watch internal medicine videos will help u a lot but still do step1 1st ..
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| maoudoody
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man stressful or not
what i know is that they make 200 dollars per hour
i like this kind of stress!!!!
but beleive me nrmp results for anaesthesia matching showed a decrease in img matching to anaesthesia from 2000 till now
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| icehell
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I hate to live in foolish dreams >>USMLE .....Diverted to AUSTRIA.....back to SHARM 
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austria
what about the rules to practice there
can u tell us about it
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3andi bokra emte7an chest beta3 el round, the resident chick gave the whole group el emte7an, el cardio was almost the same last week how the fuck el koleya teb2a accredited? shakli hakhalas wa3od 3ala dardasha asma3 om kolsoum
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allah allah 3la elta3leem fe masr....3lshan keda e7na benetƍarrag mane3rafsh 7aga 3an ay 7aga ....... ya meet '7osara..
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aywan fe3lan...om kolthoom teb2a plan B mesh hansahalek di
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nany ana khayef yasan tetla3i 3andena fel staff fel gam3a wana 3amal atarya2 3aleki lel sob7 el esboo3 el fat a3at a3akes wa7da 3al facebook heya el 3amla el group beta3 USMLE outline wana mesh 3aref 3anha 7aga,,we kont 7atet sowar kharga 3an el rekaba fel profile beta3y we shafetthom...wana zay el 3abeet oltelha en ana fe ain-shams, etc...kol ma3lomaty be kol bara2a we fel akher tel3et modares mosa3ed fel opthalmology fe ain-shams kano 3amleen meeting last Fri 3al usmle and i couldnt go olt hate2feshni mosta2bali haydee3
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