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I have recently come accross a couple of posts in the forum where people are not happy with their scores of 240+ /99. Most likely because of my ignorance , I am unable to figure out why ?
IMHO , there are other things like US experience, LORs and the type of visa you have ect. which matter in getting a residency.
Does anyone know how much score do you need to get Neurosurgery at Harvard ?
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| new_n_lost
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Believe Me When i say this Unless n untill i have Known ppl during their prep i dont even bother to read their scores cos u never know who is telling th etruth or satisfying his ego in his/her own twisted sense of reality. Lonely ppl have done that before will keep on doing them.
Ppl having great Scores n then feeling sorry that they didnt get their acquired target i feel sorry for these ppl truly sorry. As a Good friend of Mine Says I have Seen 99ers asking for basic Concepts or standing numb when faced to make a inference or a deduction.
I Sincerely Hope that these unknown ppl have really got such great scores n arent posing to be overachievers n feeding off the hopes of New Members who look at them for inspiration. Members here who i know during their preps n their way of thinking i m sure they gotten good score but for the rest of them who just pop up to tell us that they have got 99 n when u read their exm experiences they r missing the common stuff. the Questions they got Inferences they made r leaving me wild-eyed, some r posting simply others experiences collected form other forums. Somehow i dont think ppl who have gotten great scores think they shud have gotten so much abvoe then i have a open question to All Those 99ers " Can U seriously Tell Me How Many Questions U Attempted Were Correct N Can U Shed SOme Light on the Scoring System " .
Total BS Buddy Total BS
Unique This yrs Match n past 2-3 yrs a trend is being developed by PDs they arent looking at ur scores but also they r looking for a person who can be their teammate not some sad slob of guy/gal who has Attention Seeker Syndrome.
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| aim99
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wow unique - i didn't know u were aiming for Neurosurgery at Harvard. well, i would think its one of the most competitive fields even for AMG's. and to top it all - HARVARD - well, that's another story........
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NNL is right - PD's need well-rounded personalities for their programs. There's no dearth of geniuses bordering on madness, but to get into a good residency program, u need more than just good scores. i know of someone (a fresh grad), who got a 99/99 and again 99 in step-III and is now doing residency in IM in some God-forsaken community hospital in Bronx, NY and i know of someone else with scores of 81 and 83 now doing residency in Psych in a really good university-based program. so everything matters, not just the scores - but yes, of course, a 99 will definitely not hurt you.........
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| new_n_lost
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Atleast Get a 99 dont Fake it then come with a lame *** excuse that i was a silent reader of this forum God Y Do ppl always Get Motivation out of the Fake ones. Man this is so Maddening
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| sany
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Hi new again..
You have pointed out a very important point today. I hope every body also takes care in taking certain imaginary figures..ya truly..attention seeking syndrome..more can be said .,this is enough at the middle of my study.
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| sss sss
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totally agree with you NNL was beginning to wonder if i was the only one being put off with this atttude by these attention seekers.
Edited by sss sss on 04/20/07 - 08:38 PM
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| unique1
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NnL wrote:
Unique This yrs Match n past 2-3 yrs a trend is being developed by PDs they arent looking at ur scores but also they r looking for a person who can be their teammate not some sad slob of guy/gal who has Attention Seeker Syndrome.
Very well said NnL . I fully agree with you. They need a PERSON and not mere three digits. A nice person with a decent score (which indicates a sound knowledge) is a pleasure to work with . While someone snob , egocentric , depressed or rude with a 275+ can be a real pain in the neck.
aim 99, Me ? and Neurosurgery ? and Harvard ? . Having said that who knows what God has in store for anyone of us including me .
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they are not attention seekers thy have personality disorder like fugue or something else,i don't know why we trust on them b/c we don't know them not anyone on this forum is with his/her true identity. some people are here just horrifying others by saying oh my god the exam is so hard i can't believe they asked so many stat then the other one comes says exam is so doable its not that hard at one point i just stopped reading thier exp. b/c evryone is so diff. whom to believe on but one thing i will say that you cannot trust on everybody unless you get your own exp. or someone very close to you take it & talk about it some people are personally mis guiding you like in one exp i read somebody wrote about the exam that it was so easy like a piece of cake & then on one reply he/she says i like to make people comfortable by giving them happy newses what is this mean?
anyway making long story short i agree with that only score doesn't count there are alot of things that also counts one of my friend got 77,78 in steps & he did one year IM then he switched to gynecology then he did one yr fellowship gynesubspeciality he was just an everage joe barely did his residency now he is doing another fellowship in columbia,ny he had attempts in step 1 he took two attempts in step 3 passed in third attempt what you will say about this & this is a true story i swear to God.so don't believe on everbody except GOD & yourself.if it is in your fate you will get it even in a very unusual way.
as for unique about neurosurgery she is just teasing you aren't you unique?
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relaxing posts my friends thanx  I was really feeling like idiot yesterday bc I would be fine with a 85+ and shout it loud like YAAYYYYYY to the forum...yesterday I was starting to think : God! look at these ppl...theyr soooo good and you...having seriously started to study 15 days ago...thinking gonna do it in 2 months ??!? no way  now I feel more confident thank you my friends...I love u all
unique !! u rock LOL who stops you ! go to Harvard 
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and by the way...I guess calling them attention seekers would a little harsh dont you think  maybe they really really gave all their souls to this ....we gotta try to make empathy...its just it made me feel like an idiot LOOL
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woah!!! u guys r on a roll....!!!
IMHO... the ppl who r actually on the forum for a longer period generally r honest about thier scores.... so not all the 99 here r fake( and yes.. for those who r yet to slay the goliath and those who score ..well lets just say , average...)..reading that some ppl r not happy with thier 3 digits even if the two digit is 99... can b frustrating... but wat the hey.. type A personalities exist evrywhere.... and mayb they did expect a lot more from themselves...nothing is impossible.. and like feyza said..they prob put the the rest of the world absolutly on hold..
as for the ppl who say they were silent readers and only now hve decided to "contribute" well as long as thier advice is solid and u can use ur own common sense to analyse it.... who cares!!
im not trying to diss any of the newbies(we all were new at one point or the other).. but in the end its the amount of hard work u put in that eventually gets thru....
Edited by jaide on 04/21/07 - 01:53 AM
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Awesome !!!! yesterday me n my studymate discussed this topic only and formulate this same conclusion unique and nnl made ...almost agree with u both and thanks for highlighting this,its random selection i guess where every tidbits counts like nnl mentioned our overall personality not merely three digit scores i know i cant comment over this b/c im still the candidate to appear in but that what i perceived through all posted exam experiences whether new comer/silent/homey ones....yes i do agree exp posted by the ones we know (homey ones) make me really happy and motivated internally ..and also my studymate's bro he got spot in NY with juz 85+ all b/c she says he has all the qualities one organization wuld need besides good clinical mind, he was not very old but 2001 passout..and guys its luck as well but 99% perspiration 1% luck....they all are hardworking and more important true to themselves...we can lie to others but GOD up there is watching evrything, fake ones can satisfy their so called egos and would think have become heros(deliusional-personality disorder) but what in real life,huh?well god knows who is true or not..but b/c of them there would be some real hidden heros who wuld be new comers too but do suffer also...yes i do agree with jade also we are smart enuf to get what we want and move on ...we should put our best efforts in, regardless of what others say... dont juz rely 100% on posts everyones different in their own styles....who lie who not leave it, difficult to point out and find out i think all known members do get 99s as well so be inspired by them and keep going they all are very helpful...and wish we all get our desired destinys soon....AMEEN!!!
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Same Here I m not Trying to Diss Anybody here But Cmon it literaly sounds pathetic when a Person Shows up on ur turf Says that he/she had a nerve shattering experience n then goes to say that a certain 3 digit score wasnt enuf its like Cmon whos gonna believe u then ppl who r slient viewers looking for some moral support or advices look up to these schmucks n get the wrong idea abt MLE most us dont know wht others have gone thru to get into this system. If u go thru this forum u will find that ppl who r called for interviews for residencies r getting loans or while studying r giving up their jobs so that they can sit in one place n study. THey tend to look up to ppl they find Supportive how wud they know this person is a Fake.
Edited by new_n_lost on 04/21/07 - 09:59 AM
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| unique1
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Thanks a lot everyone for sharing your ideas .
Feyza, Harvard is my dream , not for myself but for my kids 
Jaide , I like this twinkling star. May you shine the same way.
Sany, Usmlefever, SSS ,Mytime and keepgoing , nice to have your input in this matter.
NnL , You are right again. My whole point of starting this discussion was to highlight the fact that there are other areas which should not be neglected , like US clinical experience is a major factor which helps you getting a residency.
While we are studying , we should concentrate on getting as high a score as we can. We should aim high instead of just wanting to pass the test. Anything above 95 is great . 99 would never hurt. When we have taken this test and got a 99 , we should be grateful . I can understand the frustration of a person who put his life on hold for many months and put all his effort to get the highest possible three digit score but ended up with lower than what he/she wanted . But guys , realise the fact that it is still a 99.It is frustrating for someone who is happy with his/her 90 or 85.
I appreciate everyone putting their experience, score , suggestions ect. here and I do not call anyone FAKE unless I can prove it . This forum is a blessing for all of us and the credit goes to the management ,mods and above all to those who share their experiences and are always ready to help others . I wish each and everyone of us reaches their goals and all our dreams come true . Ameen.
  
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Dude, one step at a time. Get double 99 first then think about harvard. Not matter how good your personality is, without double 99 as an FMG you've got zéro chance to get into neurosurgery.
Also harvard's neurosurgery department isn't THAT good, if you want to aim high, try UCSF.
Edited by Jackofknives on 04/21/07 - 01:45 PM
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Jack of knives , I was only kidding. Thanks for the info though.
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Oh lol i missed the joke
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| aim99
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Jack of knives - Harvard might be the Mecca of Medicine (after Hopkins of course), but to get into Harvard, u don't really need a double 99. I had a friend who did his MPH from Harvard and eventually got into their residency program (Anesthesia) with 81 in step I and something in late seventies in step-II (not sure of the score). So, in the end, everything matters - your overall personality, who you know, who can recommend your name, having the right contacts, USCE..............the whole nine yards.............
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| jole
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i agree with aim99.it involves a whole lot.but hey with hard work and prayers we can all do it Inshallah.Its tough but we'll get there.All the best to everyone.
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I dont want my comments to stand out like a sore thumb, but I thought that I would pitch my opinion as well. I guess the reason why the people with 240+ and with 99 are complaining is because of the new 99 standards. If a person who has aimed to score a 99 and worked hard for it finds out that he has 242/99, he may feel that he doesnt deserve the 99 since in the old sysytem it would have still meant a 98 and obviously 98 for the person was a disappointment. Dont mean to say that 98 is a bad score, but different people have different aspirations and expectations out of themselves. mymeghji....yes the same step 2 guy with 286/99 had a 97 on step 1 with which he was very very disappointed and so he bust his back towards step 2. Coming back, the person with 240+ and 99 almost has a feeling of not getting the 99 on the basis of his own merit but lots of luck to get a 99 and this leaves them with a feeling of DISSATISFACTION.
But yes, true knowledge CANNOT be measured in scores as rightly pointed out by NNL...
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CoolMavs .............. U talking abt disappointed abt something for which u have no absolute idea how it was done. PPL say they shud have gotten this score or that but my question can they tell me or point me or anyone for that matter how they have figured out the scoring system. buddy when u dont know how they r scoring ur test how can u predict the outcome of ur result.
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NNL, completely agree with what you say. The only thing is that I am just trying to see a reason behind the behavior of some of our OLD and LONG term forum members, who have been around for long and helping others, who genuinely seem disappointed at their scores. Just trying to see things from their point of view.
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To Those u refer as Long Term and Old Plz Go thru the Entire Forum that See How many have been here n where they r now. This Forum Luckily has a Very Broad Base i.e Really Good Forum Seniors who have got great score n prematched with step 1 scores only n htis is not something very old hardly within the last yr Match. I havent Found a Single post where they come up with idea that they shud have scored that much. Buddy Be Realistic If u r trying to find a reason to Justify their Ignorance or So-Called Disappointment " then i can assure u that u r validating one fact which is that Snobs can be Good Motivators.
Most of Us here like to keep things realistic n true so that ppl who go thru this forum members n non-members can get the true experience of the ppl who hgave every exm. but Experiences like these give a wrong impression n 2ndly u will be enforcing an Ego centric attitude these so called 99ers have developed.
I have made a rule over the time i have spent here in the forum is that unless n until i dont see the person answering questions on the forum ( which can give u an insight how the person is prepared or thinks in tough questions) I not going to fall for that person's Bragging of high score. U may find my method very rude, harsh or way too judgemental but i have to be realistic atleast for my sake n others who have expressed the similar feelings.
P.S If HE/SHE Really Got A High Score I Dare them to Post the Score Report. Its Simple cos u have no other way of knowing that the other person is lying or not cos ppl have weird tendencies especially on the internet they satisfy their egos which they cant do in Real Life they do it here. 
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