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Hi, I wonder what kind of job do the IMG in USA. I am an IMG already in Usa and preparing for step 1 but i don't have any source of income. Is it possible for an IMG to get a license as a nurse(licensed practical nurse) in short period of time respect to the normal time necessary for a student with no medical training? I got a job in STARBUCKS but i am looking a job something in the medical field. is this possible before passing the steps? or i can only work out of the medical field? I will apply for research assistant but i think this will be hard to find cuz most of them require 1 or more years of experience.
The IMG in Usa what kind of work do they find while they prepare for the steps?
PLS HELP I AM desparated. Any help will be appreciated. I MUST WORK,I HAVE NO INCOME. I HAVE WORK PERMIT
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| new_n_lost
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Go to the Local GP ask them if u can work with With them as PA with them u wont get paid initially but its a lot better than working at Starbucks. After u have shown ur skills to them negoiate ur salary still u will get a little income but howsoever less it is its still ur field
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| whiterabbit
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Yep.......one can take some kind of dictation job from a doctors office.........Good luck
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| spirit
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Thank you New n lost and whiterabbit for your advice
I found some job offer in internet as a medical assistant, but i don't know if it is possible wotk without license for medical assistant
New n lost and whiterabbit , in the information u gave me, what could be assistant to the physician? Can i help him in taking the vital signs or in phlebothomy? Could you specify better the role?
Thank you again for your help.
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| arlete
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I worked as an EKG technician, used to read holters and evaluate pacemakers and ICD, during 20 months. It's a bad salary (something around $12 an hour), but it's another option you can think of. You can be a research assistant, that's what would be the best, in my opinion, in terms of salary and cv enhancement.
Good luck!
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| spirit
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Hi arlete, research assistant is goos especially for CV, but i have applied for research assistant and till now no one called me. I am looking for any job in the medical field even at $10 an hour. May be taking a phlebotomy course would help me. This moment without job is hard for me
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| arlete
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Spirit:
Keep knocking on doors, eventually one is going to open... Consider moving to the Midwest, or another place where the weather is not very nice, they are in much need of any healthcare professional!
I'll be praying for you.
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| kimo40
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 you are lucky that you have work permit
me and many of my friends still taking usmle steps and IMGs in usa without work permit with b1/b2 visa ,,, and we work in any thing cuz we have the hope of being something oneday
i worked first in pizza store with 6 $ / hour it was very hard job
then as a cashier with 6.50 $ /hour
then in one of the subway food resturants with 7 $ / hour
so , be patient it is the live
and God with you
Edited by new_n_lost on 05/19/07 - 03:02 PM. Reason: Plz Change ur Avatar
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I can only conclude you are looking and fighting for something better then what you had home, so I am praying you will have the strenght to endure this difficult life you have now. God bless you, I am praying for you. And yes, I am very lucky I have work permission, I do not take that for granted at all...
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| new_n_lost
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spirit wrote:
Thank you New n lost and whiterabbit for your advice
I found some job offer in internet as a medical assistant, but i don't know if it is possible wotk without license for medical assistant
New n lost and whiterabbit , in the information u gave me, what could be assistant to the physician? Can i help him in taking the vital signs or in phlebothomy? Could you specify better the role?
Thank you again for your help.
Yes u can and if u gain experience he might recommend u to some other Consultant or even hire u as PA n take on rounds n all n even ask u to assist in Surgery. These things have known to happen all u have to do is to be dedicated.
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Looks like nothing comes easilly, an MD working for subway or starbucks!
Good luck, ALL OF US!!
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| tranxen
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The situation of IMG is a shame in the US.
I live in Florida and I had to take a phlebotomy class in order to obtain a job (low wages, PT without insurance)...
I am French and I think that the European healthcare system is as good as the American one, if not better in a way. Here, i can see that the fear guides the Medical choices (screening, immunizations, blood tests for toddlers - HbA1c, lead, ...).
I have another PT job, which is not in the medical field, but better paid.
I must admit that not a single physician here could help me (Palm Beach County). My hope: to leave south Florida, or Florida, or the USA.
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| dermdoc57
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Dear tranxen.Do not expect empathy,compassion,non-judgemental attitude,etc.in US.This is for the exams only and confined to the books.Medical profession doesn't have it particularly when it comes to dealing with our own fraternity.All we can expect is lots of yelling and verbal abuse which will never be accepted in any civilized society but very much part of medicine.The worst part is we all accept it.
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| nootropic
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You may try to work as a research fellow, post-doctoral fellow (since you have an MD) etc. PIs in research always look for slaves to do their projects and since you have a working permit, no prob. The salary can vary from $25,000-$40,000 (depends on experience). But...you may (like 99%) have to do overtime and weekends. And you can have abstracts, papers, LORs out of that. You may start volunteer in a lab (once or twice a week), and learn couple of techniques, networking and ask for positions around.
Again...it will be overtime and pressure in order to produce data etc so you may not have time for your exams. And that occurs to fellows and RAs. I used to work in a lab for two years and I've seen many IMGs trapped in that environment for years because of the hard work and the no-time-to-study status. You know what they say...be careful what you wish for
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... and it's a lot of paperwork!
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| nootropic
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It will help other people As for the paperwork I only had to 1. evaluate my degree 2. send my CV 3. Do the appropriate application 4. Since I did not have a working permit I had to get a SSN, visa etc 4. be nice to the secretaries and coordinators, be on top of everything and efficient and have a little patience Again it did not help me with my steps (tons of work) but I had my papers and two LORs out of that. It's good for couple of years but do not get trapped on that, that would be my suggestions.
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Well guys look with so much competition going on here in US normally people refrain from vouching for someone. And the only reason we sort of accept it is that we are the one who are joining the system. They havent invited us here or sent us free for all pamphlets. So there will be hardships and lot of pains but in the end we are the ones who asked for it so we shouldnt complain. Yes we can rant about it. .
Its almost the same with everyone.
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I partially agree with new_n_lost but I think that we should remember that there is a win-win situation here. The system needs IMGs as much as we need residency positions. That is why for e.g. 38% of IM posts are covered by IMGs and yet all AMGs match easily and in high profile programs in IM.
Do not underestimate yourself thinking that they are doing you a favor. You deserve what you get and you're working hard for that. No complains but do not accept exploitation either
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nootropic wrote:You may try to work as a research fellow, post-doctoral fellow (since you have an MD) etc. PIs in research always look for slaves to do their projects and since you have a working permit, no prob. The salary can vary from $25,000-$40,000 (depends on experience). But...you may (like 99%) have to do overtime and weekends. And you can have abstracts, papers, LORs out of that. You may start volunteer in a lab (once or twice a week), and learn couple of techniques, networking and ask for positions around. Again...it will be overtime and pressure in order to produce data etc so you may not have time for your exams. And that occurs to fellows and RAs. I used to work in a lab for two years and I've seen many IMGs trapped in that environment for years because of the hard work and the no-time-to-study status. You know what they say...be careful what you wish for
you make it sound so negative, the experience you gain from research is invaluable for your ability to practice evidence-based medicine and for your career in academics. If you consider research as slavery then maybe it is not the thing for you. I’m also doing research and I think it’s awesome that I get to do operations on rats during my preclinical years which not only enhances dexterity but also grants me the exposure to the clinical aspect. I also process immunohistochem stained sections and the result is astonishingly beautiful. The bottom line is, you should only do this if it’s your passion.
Another thing is it may come as a cultural shock to newcomers that a large portion of Americans in the medical, law and financial business work extremely long hours and the competition is very high. This especially applies to the medical research when most none-MD PI’s livelihood is dependant on funds, which is also the reason why they need to produce results by pushing the assistants somewhat. What you have to do is to have a talk with your PI and clearly define your boundary as to how many hours you can work because you are also preparing for USMLE. Most PI’s are very understanding and it shouldn’t be a problem.
Edited by Jackofknives on 01/07/08 - 11:54 AM
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| dermdoc57
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nootropic.I salute you for your statement that they also need you and it is because they need you and they claim to be impartial that attracts you to this country.Any human interaction is a two way process and each has to take its own blame.Above all nobody has the right to exploit people for their own gain particularly countries which claim equal opportunities for all regardless of race,national origin,age,sex,orientation.It all seems BS.
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Look they need IMGs and IMGs need them. But the bottom line is that they are ones with the choices and not us. Anyone of us will simply disregard everything if offered a job right now in our own field irrespective of the fact that the person being chosen was done to fill a quote or the person was percieved as workable or willing to go in an area where their own wouldnt go.
They have invited you for an interview though they maintain they are Equal Opportunity Employers they still retain the right to chose amongst us who is most compatible for them.
As for exploitation well its not only reserved for us even they get exploited. And moreover one cant explain exploitation in matching process. They choose what they like we chose what we like and the system sets us according. You cant blame them if they choose someone other than you who they thought was better than you. Their loss not yours.
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| spirit
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Hi every body. It's almost a year that i wrote this Thread. Still i got nothing    . I jumping from cashier in starbucks to parking. Does anyone now if working as NURSING ASSISTANT is useful?
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| nyimalay
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Hi sprint,
Check out craigslist.
Some practices hire FMG as medical assistant. You don't need to have a MA certificate.
For example, citycare family practice in NY. I worked as a MA there. Quited as my studies were not fine with full time job.
Now i m looking for a position in Starbucks. Can you share me your starbucks experience?
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Hi , there r 2 things , work FT with good pay or , FT 2 jobs with low pay then , sit for exm intensely studying with no job or 1 FT job without wearing u off , usually cashier job , or non busy clinic [ not think will hire us if not busy ] or PT job of any or if if can save money of 2 jobs or 1 good job b4 , then after that study 6 mo more or less for each step depends on ur readiness of knowledge for exm then after each step if need to earn, work abit or FT as said b4 then go for another step .
What ever u did , do put smile on heart , face , so will study well .
Then after steps go knock on door as NNL said with confidence & smile on face , am sure u will get some thing , also spread the words to frds to frds etc med or non med to get med jobs , GL .
My girl frd also said better get cashier job [ she passed exm in short peroid ] .. not brain responsibility like mA or PA or RA or nurse , so will b able to study after work than doing heavy mind bogging medical job that cannot study at all , it's ur call ..
Bottom line is to b able to do exm asap , so worry abt the med related job later , hange on ur cashier , focus ur studying , & b happy .
Any how still what ever job u do , enjoy so can study ahppily without mental tireness after work .
I rather get cashier job in parking or security of the building or condo [ better night shift .. so can get nice quiet reading with less problem less ppl traffic ] , so can listen to papi or Dr Fish or who ever u like than intense speedy job in med related where u cannot even go to ... forget abt ur mp3 at job , ur talking, walking, working etcmultitask at same time also doing problem solving etc all at same time in every second .
Oh by the way , usually research , especially clinical research job r busier than MA, PA etc med jobs which r alraedy v. busy ..... so be ware what u wish for as one of our member mentioned .
Ok , been a long post .
Good Luck
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