mytime Kick my butt!

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| | 03/27/07 - 07:41 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
85% of Po4 is reabsorbed in PCT via Na+ Po4 cotransport So if that's happening shouldn't Ca2+ be going out in high Na+ diet, just a guess. Am sure there's more to it.

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| Luckyall Forum Guru
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| | 03/27/07 - 08:33 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
okay, lets try this: a high Na diet will stimulate ANP secretion----> wich will increase diurez.& Na-uresis by inhibiting Na and H2O reabsor. in CD If inhibit. Na/Cl. cotransporter in CD ----->Cl wont be reabsorbed inside the Cd tubular cell----> wont be reabsorbed in the interstitium blood thru the Cl channel on basolateral mb---> the net effect is decreased Ca reabsorb. from the lumen at this CD level----> therefore Ca -uria
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| mytime Kick my butt!

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| | 03/27/07 - 09:53 PM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
Ok here goes ur ans. Ca2+ reabsorption is linked to Na+ reabsorption in Loop of henle hence, Increased Na+ diet should decrease the reabsorption of Na+ , hence Ca2+ too!?
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| Luckyall Forum Guru
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| | 03/27/07 - 10:06 PM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
and why would an incr in Na diet lead to a DECREASE in Na reabs??? i bc the pump is not TM saturable . I think most of Na should be reabs. in PT (2/3), so the more you have, more is reabs.. think of Thiazides .... and Ca- uria
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| Luckyall Forum Guru
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| | 03/27/07 - 10:09 PM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
meant to say CD ---thiazides-- ca-uria However Na/K/Cl pump at the loop of henle is NOT Tm saturable for sure...
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| new_n_lost Politically InCorrect

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| | 03/27/07 - 10:13 PM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
My 2 Cents Renal calcium reabsorption is directly proportional to sodium reabsorption. When dietary sodium chloride is increased, the fractional reabsorption of sodium is decreased, leading to a parallel reduction in calcium reabsorption. Approximately 1 mmol calcium is excreted for every 100 mmol of sodium excreted. Calcium is reabsorbed 60% in the Proximal Tubule n so on till the Loop of Henle. Only PTH dictates the DCT reabsorption. Most of the Substances transported thru the Na Cotransporters While a Cl Ca Channel has been identified n implicated in this CAse (Dent's Disease).
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| Luckyall Forum Guru
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| | 03/27/07 - 10:22 PM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
and where exactlly did you search for these " 2cents" thoughts... b c is not true according with a Qs i found... it says " Ca is usually reabs. in DCT. Theoretically , Cl- is reabs thru thiazide sensitive Na/Cl and transported from the cell thru the basolateral Cl chann.--> decreasing intracell. Cl- conc.Net effect is incr. activity of voltage depend, Ca chann.-----> incr. electical gradient for Ca rabs. from lumen. " The Ca reabs in DCT is not ONLY PTH dictated.
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| new_n_lost Politically InCorrect

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| | 03/27/07 - 10:36 PM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
lol Buddy lmao   I didnt have to Search Anywhere buddy its in Ganong
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| new_n_lost Politically InCorrect

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| | 03/27/07 - 10:37 PM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
Look Under Calcium Balance in Endocrine Section n in Renal Chapters
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| epica
| | 03/27/07 - 11:35 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
90% Ca is reabs. in PT an TAL. NNL, your explanation is correct, just from the Basic science.
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| mytime Kick my butt!

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| | 03/27/07 - 11:39 PM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
That's what i said in my way!!!!!!!!!!!
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| epica
| | 03/27/07 - 11:44 PM  
 
   
 
|   #13 |
Yep, u were right , mytime I like your "smiles", I downloaded them too, thanks.
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| mytime Kick my butt!

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| | 03/27/07 - 11:51 PM  
 
   
 
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| new_n_lost Politically InCorrect

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| | 03/27/07 - 11:56 PM  
 
   
 
|   #15 |
lol  Mytime U r charged Right now !!!!!!!! Battery Full Charged Neend bhi Full Charged.
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| keepgoing Forum Guru
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| | 03/28/07 - 02:07 AM  
 
   
 
|   #16 |
dont know but cud it be bcos high sodium intake---->inc Na reabsorptn --->hence inc calcium(hypercalcemia)---> increase calcium --->inhibit PTH --> hence Hypocalcemia and inc calcium excreation...
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