unique1
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It is never too early or too late to start studying. You have already taken the most important step towards your preparation. That is to admit that you need to study your basics.
So , go for it. Many people preparing for MLE with families and full time jobs do not have more time than you have. Your strong basics will help you in your current studies too, so you should not waste time and start reading today . Good luck. 
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| Mamay
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There are many people on the forum who used to study in Russia and did well on the exam... So, the problem is within you, not within the system you are in... Be at least thankful to those who welcomed you... And, the most important, nobody urges you to take steps as early as you want... Don't be obsessed with your dreams...
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| Mamay
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If you don't like the place you are in, and don't like Russian language, why are you still there??? Go home...
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| luckyjack
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thanks mamay for ur concern.
...i really didnt mean to insult the Russian education...definitely..without forgetin..i am obliged to it....for what they are giving me..is a medical degree nd nt to mention medical education at affordable rates!!?!?!!?!???...
i may hve to admit that...bcause i didnt come here on scholarship..but on self finance basis..but this shudnt make ppl put...all self finance students in samebowl...some of them like..me..really deserved an admisison even in indian med.colleges...
anywys..tatz nt the centre..we r speaki abt...
and yah...truth is bitter.
i am thankful..to atleast be in a state to become a doctor..when i didnt hve admission in indian med. college..but ya...coming to statistics..i ..u adn everybdy has to accept abt the poor medical standards..in russia..
ys..their teaching is poor...thier medica facilities r poor..tht is true...
if i had known this alll earlier..i wudnt hve landed up here...but...once in here...there is always a possibility to convert even sand to gold..and that is what i am tryin to do..
discouragement is man`s biggest enemy and you should better understand this.
i dont mean to offend u bt thatz the truth.
if anybody frm russia is practicing in USA....thats nt becuasse of the system..bt coz of their brilliantness.
how do u feel mamay..when i tell u an extract from NEWYORK TIMES tht half of the russian medical graduates(MD physician) Dont know how to read ECGs?....whom will u blame?...the system who makes such doctors?...or the students ?!?!?...
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tkecre. n gud luck.
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| babydoc4usmle
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Praise the Lord! Mamay, you read my mind...i have the same feeling reading this post.
nobody pushed you into studying in "weired Russian language" in the first place
don't complain that you don't perform well on the tests, it's up to you how you perform
so many people went after medical degree in Russia (or ex-USSR), especially in Moscow and Petersburg not for easy walk (which is not), but for high quality education for small fraction of usual cost at any other country.
And if you have not noticed yet - there are two absolutely different system in testing your knowlege and approach to a medicine in Russia and USA.
Make appropriate adjustments. And do not expect it to hapen overnight.
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| Mamay
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Hey Luckyjack,
thanks for your quick reply...
Well, the NY Times isn't a judge to any of us... I am not sure is ENT doctors here, in the US, can read EKG... Well, they know names of waves, but they always ask for an official reading by the expert... No matter how good you know something, you'll forget that soon if don't use on a daily basis... I wouldn't make a big conclusion from that simple fact...
What do you actually need (or, let's put in this way, what you don't have) to get a good knowledge in Russia? Don't have enough corps to cut across to study anatomy? The textbook by Prives (and the atlas by Sinelnikov) are the best ones I ever saw, even here... You don't see enough patients? You can buy Harrison's on your own and enjoy it... All blood biochem you must learn on your own either... Let me give you another example: even US med students fail on the exam because of BAD knowledge they got here... I tend to believe that the problem is how much one's head can comprehend and contain, but not in what souse of knowledge you use, if it is commonly used...
You have to relax and think only positively, with no complains onto circumstances... If you cannot do something right now, it is not a right time for that... Just take more time...
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| luckyjack
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babydoc n mamay..
thanks for sharing ur concern n views wid the confusion i am presently in.
..the centre of the topic wasnt not to insult russian education or sumthing!!!...this is the topic..hving endless discussion and actually nt required to any of us..(...u both wont believe if i present u the whole statistics of russian education after the break up of USSR...especially after 1995....but ..this is nt 4 wht we all r here)....
....i understand of the difference in appraoches...betn the 2 countries...for medicine.
...i ws here wid this single question....if..wud it be rite to..start putting up by basics (IN US WAY--usmle)...now....since i am afraid i wont be able to put in much time...rite now..or..itz wise to put my soul in to clinical sciences only..referring all..russian n english buks if possi..
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i am nt time constrained...but..wud feel relieved...if i atlesast start doin basic sciences once again...tht wud keep my spiritis high.
it wud be kind of u intelligent ppl in here..if u can juz drop in ur views in my situation....
.....becuase...itz not long back..that i came out of the inferiority complex of hivng lesser knowledge(...tht ws true when i practiced in summer in india..during holidays)...and thot..i can do USMLE.
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anywys..thanks again..for takin interest..
gudluck..n regards to all.
bbye.
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| luckyjack
Forum Newbie
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n ya...wanted to ask one more thing..
hw do these AMERICANS intepretate my brillliantness during medschool...by merely luking at my grades?
or..in other word..hw ffar are my grades in medschool r imp?
for eg...if i find..some department..or some exam..to be useles..(like..there cud be such subjects tught like HYGIENE)..or sumthin..and i dont waant to waste time studyin it...n better pay tht time for my self prep for basic sciences...shud igo 4 it..or ..till the last day .i shud aim at maintaing my medical scores..?
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| babydoc4usmle
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do not confuse 2 independent things - your education with diploma and degree at the end and passing exams in the US
you can not substitute any subjects in your education just because you think you will never need them - it will hurt you at the end. do not neglect any subject. think it this way: in order to be eligible to take USMLE you need medical education in some country and eventually diploma, whithout it you will not be able to complete your eligibility for US residency. how you are going to perform is up to you, but keep this in mind: how you act now will predict (with some degree of variation, off course) how you'll act in the future and how people will see you in the future. i don't think that any respecting professor will be delighted to have you if he/she will hear that you ditched classes because you thought it was not imprtant for you and your career. if you do something do it well, and it will be paid off.
now, as for the exams: you are going to take AMERICAN exam, so forget about RUSSIAN textbooks. even if information is the same, format is very different. so to prepare for USMLE you need appropriate material, books that people usually use in USMLE preparation
not because these books are better, but simply because they are appropriate, and in language you are going to take this exam in.
as for education itself...can't say what is happening now, i am out of school for 7 years now, and new laws that are being written by department of education in Russia are not something i understand or like, i think that system that was employed 10-20-30 years ago was very good and teaching was on very high level.
new laws do not make any better, i would say worse...lot's of confusion. and now there is a new one...idiots.
anyway, you have lot's of time, take one step at a time (appropriate step at appropriate time) and you'll get there, wherever you are going to
good luck in your jorney
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| drpkaur
Forum Guru
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hey luckyjack ...don't get this thing in mind that graduates from russia /ukraine can't do well...this is a disbelief.........i have lots of friends from russia who has cleared USMLE's and doing residencies..majority got excellent scores..so think positive and study well.by the way from where are doing your graduation in russia.
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| luckyjack
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hi dr. kaur.
myself 4m tver,russia(old name kalinin)....
where r u settled?...wud like to know abt u too
gudluck. n tkecre.
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