yoga
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i am still in medschool i am studying for step 1 along with my courses (i am in preclinical phase) iam studying from kaplan & FA the problem is :what is high yield for the boards is very low yiel for my medical school & i end up getting bad scores on my exams...   from one point of view i want 2 ace usmle but from another point i want to excel in my medical school 
i am thinking that if i am getting such bad scores in medschool it is impossible for me to do good on the boards
what do u think?what do u advise some1 in my situation??
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| tanmaynator
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are you an american medical student or an img??
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| inkspot
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if ur an IMG i would recommend u to do ur step1 after clinical years or graduation! This way u will be able to connect clinical scenarios well with basic science concepts!
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| yoga
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what i am trying 2 say is that i am applying the advice of FA ppl who said that u have 2 prepare years prior exam - along with ur courses-
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| obgyne2b
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Hi yoga, I was in a similar situation as you. Review books did nothing for my class exams. Reading stuff like Cecils and Robbins did much more, plus the professor's notes. I have read posts on other forums of students totally focusing on Step 1 at risk of doing poorly in school...my take on that is this: if your school grades on Pass/Fail, then this is good advice. Just do the minimum to Pass and study for the step 1. If your school grades on letter grades and you have to get B grade or better to pass, then my advice is to focus on excelling in school and take the needed time off to focus on step 1.
Some schools are set up where you have to pass step 1 in order to go on to clinicals. In this case, I would totally focus on step 1.
Yoga, find the relevant topic in FA and make notes in it. This will help you save time when you being to prepare for Step 1. Don't stress if the FA concepts are not being explicitly taught in your school. If your school teaches lots of details, then you may be in a very good position for Step 1, since it seems to be going above and beyond what is in most review books these days!
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| luckyjack
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hi obgyne2b.
am i right in interpretating you..if u mean that..if the medschool grades us..(in my case marks out of 5 like 3/5,4/5,5/5 in each subject---inRussia)....and as such..since the highyeild subs for usmle are almost always low yeild for non-american schools(as far as i hve seen)....do u waant to say..for thesake of saving gud grades..one shud ...temporarily pay attention in medschool and get best grades...than studying for step1?
.........coz..as i think..as in my case...solely studying for medschool in basic sciences subjets..wont even contribute 10%to the real preparation for step1....i.e. .....studying..those lowyeild subs..wud help only to get BETTER GRADES nd nothing for USMLE...
so..wht exactly ppl like..yoga n lucky jack n hundreds in same confusion shud do!?
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please suggest/
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| obgyne2b
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Hi,
US and Carib schools, more or less, teach according to the US board exam. If you are a foreign student, your school probably teaches according to what the licensing board in your respective country wants you to know in order to pass the exam of your country. Please be aware that FA is a very succinct review. They leave out the small details because it is assumed that you were given those small details in your primary study during med school years 1 and 2. Time is a big factor as most US students only have 2-4 weeks to prepare for Step 1 after the semester ends. FA people know this. If you are using FA with your classes and find that your professors don't discuss the same topics, then that should be a clue to you to do your own reading on that topic if you are interested in USMLE. You will need more than FA, in my opinion. Use Kaplan lecture notes and anything by Dr. Goljan. If you can arrange these studies while you are in school, do so. If not, wait until you can dedicate full time. Also, try to study with others that are taking the USMLE, it may help.
Edited by obgyne2b on 03/08/07 - 01:08 PM
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| yoga
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obgyne2b =>thank u for ur tips & contripution
i believe it is is good 2 have the review books & live in the atmosphere of usmle as pretest ppl say prepare early score higher
any how; having review material helped me to got concentrated .. i noted that the boards ask about rare syndromes & stuff that i would never been asked in medschool about them but they are worth knowing but i still have the trauma of not doing will on medscool exams..i mean if i cant do will on medscool with the relative superficial covering what would i do on the boards
up to this moment i still ask myself "HOW TO EXCEL IN MEDICAL SCHOOL?" help me ppl
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| luckyjack
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yoga...
if u r asking hw to xcel in medskul...thts rather an eaiser thing to do..
shut ur review books for a while...(in case u find less time to prepare for ur school`s course itself!!:!!!)...
refer ur professor`s notes..or whtever books r being in current fasion...or..simply do lke..those studs in ur medschool...who dont think for USMLE..and only for college grades!! )...
idont really think...if u r nt gettin gud grades ..it wud hve some impact on....ur usmle results..
as fr the matter of fact.usmle...asks in AMERICAN BOARD fashion..and very obviously...their style n way of askin questions..wud be different from...wth they ask u in ur medschoool..
.........YEs...if u had been in american medskul n if u wud be tellin tht i m nt getin gud grades..i wud hve said..u dont hve very gud chances to get xcellent marks in usmle.
i hope u understand me!!
..anywys
guys please tell me..hw xactly r MARKS IN MEDSKUl important for residency?
hw do these residency director interpretate my marks..
hw do they know...70% is excellent for SOME INDIAN MEDICAL COLLLEGE AND 75%IS AVERAGEN FOR SOME RUSSIAN MED COLLEGE?
or...these marks are not at all important??
or they simply want to c..if this student..is nt somebody like a failure..who..tuk 15years to passout..the med schhool..
coz..nowhere in the diploma wud be written tha what RANK he used to get in the medskul.!!!!
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| obgyne2b
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Your usmle scores might be more important than your school marks. Clinical experience in the US is important plus letters from the attendings that were part of that experience. I am still a student, perhaps someone else with experience can post more information?
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| yoga
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i want my brain back
i want my nerves back
i want my smile back
studying 4 usmle was torture..i wish i will b doing it when i am more mature
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