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  #1

i always face many q regarding what is the next step in management for a case of PE

some time the answer like this

do ABG NOT V/Q 1st

ANOTHER Q ABG is useless do v/q or spiral CT FIRST AS long there is susp

some time go straight to heparin FIRST as long strong susp

and another q do chest xray and ABG 1st BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE

I AM SCREAMING NOWWWWWWWWWWWW

HELP HELP HELP


IF U DONOT BELIEVE ME I WILL SEND U THIS Q FROM USMLE WORLD

I know real life we order CXR ABG EKG FIRST THEN V/Q OR SPIRAL

AND THE BEST GOLD STANDARD IS ANGIO BUT WE DONOT DO IT AS IT IS INVASIVE

PLZ ANSWER ME WHAT IS CORRECT ANSWER IN EXAM




Edited by dr_jojo on 02/07/07 - 03:51 PM

  #2

From what I read if there is "high" suspicion you go right to V/Q scan. I also understand that the spiral CT is not as sensitive for distal segmental arteries PE's. Just my 2 cents. (but heparinize first)

Edited by mjl1717 on 02/07/07 - 04:52 PM

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  #3

Dr.jojo...relax..and dont get too anxious..be cool and read the q well..this is a clinical exam..ur treatment will be based on the pts presenting s/s ..u dont have to strictly follow,wht the book tells u ...use ur logic at times...if the clinical hx tells u the pt comes with sudden onset of dyspnea,hypotensive inc RR and sinus tachycardia with a rt ventricular strain and u find the pts past med hx has risk factors that can predispose him/her for a pul embolism like recent long trips, or OCP,obesity pregnancy etc--> then u MAY START TREATING the pt...but if the hx is not that sugesstive and not many s/s, that is highly suggestive of P.E and u want to rule out P.E-->do V/Q-->V/Q also will be ur answer if the pt doesnt have any hx of lung disease coz V/Q can be FALSELY POSITIVE in such conditions, so if the history tells u that pt has hx of EMPHYSEMA, PNEUMONIA, etc--> V/Q is not the right answer--> u may do a CT directly..and if lungs are clear,but hx not that suggestive do V/Q---if V/Q IS of HIGH probabilty-->start heparin...and now if low probablity--->answer can be DOPPLER u/s of legs---> if this negative---> do CT chest( NOWAdays this test is replaced V/Q scans in many centers)...and then finally pul angio..

So it all depends on the hx and clinical presentation of the pt ...relax ,dont panic and u will answer the qs right..

GLwink

Edited by Aashi on 02/07/07 - 04:57 PM

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  #4

DR AASHI .. u didnt mention about ABG?

  #5

thanx alot Dr aashi for ur explanation , when i should answer ABG 1st

can u clear this option 4 me plz

GL










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