harry 99
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Can e ask different prog where we interviewed, if they have made up their mind about us or is it voilation of MATCH?
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| bbb
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Yes - You can ask if a program is going to rank you.
The program can't tell you where they are going to rank you.
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| hookorcrook
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bbb...why can't the program tell you where they are going to rank you??Is it against NRMP rules? I thought both the applicant and program can volunteer any info they want to. Well...they may not tell where they are going to rank you if they choose not to...Correct me if I am wrong.
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| gd11
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they cannot tell you where they would rank you, hookorcrook, because that would be a violation of the NRMP rules
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| harry 99
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Thanks everyone.
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| ngt
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http://www.nrmp.org/res_match/about_res/ensuring.html
Match Communications
Applicants and program directors may express a high degree of interest in each other and try to influence decisions in their favor, but must not make statements implying a commitment. Although the Match Participation Agreement does not prohibit either an applicant or program director from volunteering how one plans to rank the other, it is a violation to request such information. Program directors and applicants frequently engage in the practice of sending letters following the applicant's interview with the program. Those letters often contain statements that can be misinterpreted by either party. Match participants must understand that such letters are not binding and have no standing when final rank order lists are submitted.
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| ngt
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Misleading Communications
Each year, the NRMP is contacted by applicants who believe that an error has occurred in the Match because they did not match to programs whose directors had promised them positions (i.e., had promised to rank them high enough to ensure a match). In every case, the NRMP has determined that the applicant did not match to the desired program because, contrary to the applicant's expectation, the program did not rank the applicant high enough on the program's rank order list for the applicant to match there.
The Match Participation Agreement permits program directors and applicants to express a high degree of interest in each other but prohibits statements implying a commitment. However, some applicants may misinterpret statements of encouragement to signify a commitment on the part of the program and some programs may make misleading statements.
Statements such as the following have been made by program directors to applicants who later did not match to those programs:
- "We plan to rank you very high on our list."
- "We hope to have the opportunity to work with you in the coming year."
Such statements are not binding and frequently are misinterpreted, and applicants should not rely on them when creating their rank order lists.
Program directors, institutional officials, and medical school officials should avoid making misleading statements and at all times display a professional code of behavior in their interactions with applicants.
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| hookorcrook
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Thanks ngt...I get it...good PDs will defer from making comments on ranking and will just give a positive feedback...
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