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  #421

keep going: Penetrance is a single gene disorder concept.Not so much a autosomal/ sex linked disorder concept.

How ever Kaplans talks of only autosomal diseases and not sex linked.

this question is very straight forward.

It is a X- linked dominant disease which the father has.He can transmit his X to only his daughters.Son's are spared. Hence all the daughters shud be affected. How ever penetrance is only 60%, which means that for every possibilty only 60% of those chances will have phenotypic disease. hence the probability is 60%.

This is my reasoning. Anyone feel free to correct me. edie..any suggestions?


  #422

yes medoc agree that part but my concern is that we do not have penetrance theory acceptble for sex-linked diseas which is in this question presented,if u read goljan's book or notes he very clearely mentions if have father have mutant gene all his daughters will be equally effected no story of whether penetrance is theer or not b/c the mutant is on sex gene ..penetrance theory ok for autosomal but sex-linked???well ye sedie and other fellow friends if know plzz correct me..this question bugging me since long..we had discussion over it before but no satisfactory answer till today..thanks medoc for reply,see if now i make clear or any sense to what my doubt isconfused

happy studying!!!


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  #423

Hi Medoc and KG. Here's my take on it. I am inclined to agree with Medoc, because only daughters of a carrier father can be affected. 60% penetrance related to chance of expressing the phenotype. Keep in mind that daughters get another X from mom, so this further lends to the variable expression of a disease that is not 100% penetrant on the X chromosome from dad. Consider this:

"The presence of a dominant allele, or two recessive alleles, is not always a guarantee that the trait will be displayed in the phenotype, a phenomenon called incomplete penetrance. Variable expressivity also occurs, with some individuals more affected than others of the same genotype. In most cases the reasons for these differences are unknown, but they are assumed to be due at least in part to other differences between individuals. For instance, if there are differences between individuals in the other genes with which the product of incompletely penetrant or variably expressed allele interacts, this may account for some of these differences in expression."

For more, go here http://www.answers.com/topic/inheritance-pattern?...


  #424

Hi , when you study, you get hungry easily, we atleast need energy , glucose , so eat healthy one, excercise then after exm.... exercise more , eat right, but back to regular portion , regular eating time instead of non stop like while studying .

I score all subj 99 to 92 in myschool days if while studying eating nonstop with sweet black coffee . On the day of exm 1st day , my girl friend said, wow , what are you doing, what have you done girl, are you sure you're studying, cause they all thinner than a stick, pencil after non sleep, no eat studying .
Me , eat well, sleep well, study well, no repeat much of notes. MAy be I sh do like that instead of sleepless now, exhausted , study not well , need alot of recheck, may be reread cause , less sleep., less eat cause less concentration .

nodnod

  #425

Hi Medoc, just wanted to see you before parting for the night. Hope you had a good one today. See you next time smiling face

  #426

hi medoc and edie!!thanks dears!!actually i didnt see or read anywhere if have incomplete or complete penetrance theory fit for sex-linked dominant inheritence,esp in dr goljan's notes..hence was the confusion ..i read these last nite..have look if get time...

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/genetics/xdom.htm

and

http://www.slh.wisc.edu/wps/wcm/connect/extranet/...

happy studying smiling face








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  #427

Hey Medocuk,

Just woundering how can u wake up that early? how much sleep do u get everynight? how much is enough? i like to sleep less but not ableshaking head

hope u had a good day


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  #428

Hey medco, When did u start ur prep & when r u planning to take the USMLE?

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  #429

Gmorning!!! Genetics pro huh?? GREAT!!!

Whats POA today?


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  #430

KG: Hey so that should help clear your doubts.Like I said the IP phenomenon is a sigle gene disorder concept.

Edie: Thanks a ton for your input. And hope you are back soon stomping Step one with those doc martins u r always talking about.

Study499: U might be a victim of time differences, and the time stamps on my journal don't correspond to the time I really am in, how ever I sleep between 5 to 7 hours. Which depends on how much i have achieved the previous day.

P2B: The prep has honestly been going on for years. but I will take this exam on 29th August. I might change the date if I do terribly on NBME but I am hoping I don't need to.

Acintya: I plan to do a gazzillion questions and clear my back log.Whats up with you?


  #431

Hey MEDOCUK, yesterday was good. get done on ur left overs........or I get the whip out.sticking out tongue Talk to ya soon! grinnod

  #432

Hi Medoc, how are you doing? Man, it's like a party over here grin Next time I'll bring beers for all nod

  #433

hi medoc,although i agree with u,yes but still not any suffiecint resource to satisfy me,when male has only X to pas sto female kids thn how is possible if its complete or incomplete penetrance but i assume all can not be wrong,i need to accept it.thanks for ur patiencewink genetics is very interesting indeed!!!well laeve it how sur study?finished genetics??

happy studying!!!


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  #434

GM, Medoc, up and at 'em!!!

  #435

hi meocuk ... hope you are doing good.. happy studying...

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  #436

MDU , where are you ?
Have a good Friday & week -end .

GLnod

  #437

Hi medocuk, thanks for stopping by my journal the other day! How are the questions coming along?



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  #438

Hey no msg from u yet, when do I call next??????// raised eyebrow

I guess u are hitting it real hard. GL, pal. nod


  #439

Hi you all. slightly rushed for time. Will try and get back to the forum when I stabilize a bit more. Until then good luck and good bye.

  #440

No problemo, be good Mer [ MeriD] .









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