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| | 10/14/06 - 06:29 PM  
 
   
 
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A 82-year-old diabetic is involved in an automobile accident with severe thoracic and abdominal traumatic injuries. He is rushed to the hospital and placed in the ICU. After a few hours, there is rapid onset of myocardial dysfunction, hypotension, DIC and coma. The sequence of events most closely mimics which type of shock? A Anaphylactic B Cardiogenic C Hypovolemic D Neurogenic E Septic This is a question from Kaplan Qbank. Please post explanation when you answer.
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| drpkaur Forum Guru

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| | 10/14/06 - 09:22 PM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
E??
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| fox Forum Guru

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| | 10/14/06 - 10:34 PM  
 
   
 
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Sepsis withis few hours of injury?!?!?
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| smal Forum Guru

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| | 10/14/06 - 11:04 PM  
 
   
 
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E, coz pt being diabetic,high chances of easy infection.and pt does devlope DIC .
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| ManuNastai Transilvanian..

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| | 10/15/06 - 12:48 AM  
 
   
 
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I also go with E because from my knowledge, you don't have DIC in any of the other types of shock
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| ssrpk Forum Fanatic

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| | 10/15/06 - 06:35 AM  
 
   
 
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agree with ManuNastai! DIC does'nt fit with others!
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| klimt Forum Guru
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| | 10/15/06 - 07:06 AM  
 
   
 
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agree E it could either be hypovolemic or cardiogenic shock, but DIC occurs only in septic shock, so E..
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| fox Forum Guru

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| | 10/15/06 - 03:26 PM  
 
   
 
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100% agree that DIC is unique to sepsis.....but I was hesitant as it says Patient developed shock within a few hours of injury...how do u explain that? There should be some latent period for infection right?
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| fongch Forum Elite

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| | 10/15/06 - 10:29 PM  
 
   
 
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Really? I seem to remember DIC will take place in the end decompensated stage of all form of shock.
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| me007 Forum Guru
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| | 10/19/06 - 07:08 PM  
 
   
 
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from Goljan Pathology etiology of DIC - 1. sepsis - most common 2. disseminated malignancy 3. trauma with crush injuries, rattlesnake envenomation So, what kind of shock in trauma?
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| rubensssss Forum Guru
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| | 10/19/06 - 08:14 PM  
 
   
 
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I don't thinkl is E I wil go for B or C To answer the question I will go for C The easy one
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| me007 Forum Guru
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| | 10/19/06 - 11:27 PM  
 
   
 
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hypovolemic, cardiogenic and septic shocks can go with circulatory collapse, which is associated with tachycardia or bradycardia, reduced cardiac output, hypotension, reduced tissue perfusion and evidence of multiorgan dysfunction such as mental depression, oliguria, and DIC. http://mindful.freeshell.org/data/01500151.html there is nothing about hypovolemia in this question, but there is myocardial disfunction. might be ans cardiogenic?
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| me007 Forum Guru
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| | 10/20/06 - 12:26 AM  
 
   
 
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should we presume that he lost blood because of injuries and he is hypovolemic or that 82-y.o diabetic predisposed to myocardial troubles? Or there is something else i'm missing?
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| mediocre Forum Elite
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| | 10/21/06 - 09:41 PM  
 
   
 
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i will go with C aswell,dic cud be as stated by me007 dto crush /trauma
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| fongch Forum Elite

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| | 10/23/06 - 05:25 PM  
 
   
 
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The answer provided is E, though.
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| inkspot Forum Guru

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| | 05/19/07 - 04:46 PM  
 
   
 
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E remember the patient is diabetic aswell this makes him more prone to infections aswell ! old age means less imunity and then other folks here have summarized it well ! septicemia and DIC have strong link
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