imnotamit Forum Guru
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| | 10/03/06 - 08:56 AM  
 
   
 
|   #1 |
did anyone hear from them....IM/FM..
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| Moozy Forum Guru
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| | 10/03/06 - 08:58 AM  
 
   
 
|   #2 |
For IM - i rcvd a rejection last week.. my friend has rcvd an invitation...
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| dev Forum Guru

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| | 10/04/06 - 05:40 PM  
 
   
 
|   #3 |
can u tell his creds?
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| punj79 Forum Newbie

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| | 10/05/06 - 12:47 AM  
 
   
 
|   #4 |
Guthrie: 101% indians. I think even the hospital had been build with construction materials from India ))
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| punj79 Forum Newbie

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| | 10/05/06 - 12:57 AM  
 
   
 
|   #5 |
forgot to mention nepotism. their spots have already been given . so waste of money applying there. I was invited by much, much better hospitals and rejected by Guthrie. That is life, that is their policy. Last year they went in match with 1 spot. Somebody told me that the air in Sayre was brought and released in huge, huge baloons. Guess from where? From India. just kidding
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| punj79 Forum Newbie

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| | 10/05/06 - 12:58 AM  
 
   
 
|   #6 |
just kidding about the air, the rest is very, very true
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| imnotamit Forum Guru
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| | 10/05/06 - 06:48 AM  
 
   
 
|   #7 |
Hi guys..what a lovely thursday morning for me...just got an interview from Guthrie...GL guys...I think guys october is the peak time for interview invitations....best wishes
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| nissan Forum Newbie
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| | 10/05/06 - 07:28 AM  
 
   
 
|   #8 |
punj79, for some one rejected by a small community hospital i think you should watch your comments. not only i'm not indian, but i am from that town. i currently finished my prelim yr surgery at guthrie and am now at a larger university program. on top of that my father is one of many, many physicians there....and guess what he's not indian either. imnotamit congrat on your interview....dont let punj79 disparaging comments detour you. it is a fine town, small yes....as for the program, it is small also but it is like any other program. they give you the chance to practice medicine...
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| punj79 Forum Newbie

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| | 10/05/06 - 08:08 AM  
 
   
 
|   #9 |
for nissan from " someone rejected by a small community hospital" . My friend I am really happy with their rejection. Otherwise I would have wasted 150$ and 2 precious days. It's a nice and funny feeling to be invited by some strong UR Residencies and other above average programs and rejected by Guthrie. for imnotamit: dont't be discouraged by my post. Everybody should feel free to post their oppinions. I did a search in the archive of this forum and I found out an interesting interview experience from 2005. Maybe it helps...it is copy-pasted below. ""IM Guthrie Program Medical Questions !! Yana 2005 IM Guthrie/ Robert Packer Hospital, Sayre, PA Tell-tale point about program: LOVES INDIANS….99 % Indian residents LOCATION: Absolutely, the middle of nowhere, the tell-tale point is that the bus from New York to Waverly (where the hotel is situated) carried only six passengers, and five of them were Indians, and before we got into the bus, I was pretty sure that all of them were headed to Guthrie, and believe it or not, all of them were headed there. Hotel: One of the few programs that pays for accommodation, a quaint little Inn called te O’Brian’s name with a bartender called Tom, who taught me more about red and white wines and the wine trails of Ithaca than what I knew all my life. Pre-interview dinner: With Intern, PGY- 2 resident and chief resident, really good food (the only candidate, and probably the first one ever to have WINE at the pre-interview dinner), especially with Iserson’s screaming out at ya “STAY AWAY FROM ALCOHOL”, but the combination of sweet, red wine and herbal grilled chicken with lime was too tempting for me to resist. Thankfully for me, the chief resident had lager beer and that sorted out the oddities a little. Interview Schedule: 07.30 am: Meet Program Coordinator 07.40 am: Morning report Pretty good, a case presentation of atrial fibrillation by the Chief Resident, who was a really chirpy, nice guy, who was born and brought up in Sayre with a terrific sense of humor. The morning report made me feel like I was in my college, with tons of Indians all around. 08.30 am: Introduction to program by Associate Program Director. A very good presentation (I usually carry the must/ want analysis with me and there is usually half left unfilled at the end of the presentation and here the presentation covered everything, made me wonder if Iserson’s was a guide for PD’s too!!) The Associate Program Director came across as a really nice guy, dedicated to teaching, and clearly mentioned the strengths and weaknesses of the program. Three interviews. IF YOU ARE GOING TO GUTHRIE, BE PREPARED FOR MEDICAL QUESTIONS. Once the interviews started going towards the medical side, the very high opinion about the program that I had (especially because I had low expectations about the program and then attended morning report and the presentation) went down. If a program wasn’t smart enough to figure out from the application if the guy was academically good or not, its probably not a good one. I told one of the faculty members this (in a different way, of course) and she told me since the majority of applicants are IMGs, they need to see how good their communication skills are before they can take them. So be prepared to take History, ask for physical signs, order investigations and discuss differentials for young Hypertension, Asthmatic with breathlessness, headache with weakness etc. I was totally unprepared for this, but I am pretty sure that I aced it. 11.00 am: Tour of the hospital Taken to Clinic, ER, Floors, ICU, Rehab, Gym, On call rooms, resident lounge by an intern (a really nice Indian girl) and a PGY-2 (a smart Indian resident), a pretty detailed tour, all the nuts and bolts discussed and delivered. Why are Indians so introvertive, hesitant and self-conscious?. Most of the applicants didn’t’ even open their mouth throughout the dinner and the tour. 12.00 noon: Noon conference. Cancelled. Pretty good pasta, salad though. Punch line: DON’T GO FOR H1 IF YOU WANT TO GO ON FOR A FELLOWSHIP GUTHRIE 2002: 7/9 RESIDENTS ON J1 WENT ON TO FELLOWSHIP 2/9 RESIDENTS ON H1 WENT ON TO GC JOB 2005: 7/9 RESIDENTS ON H1 WENT ON TO PRACTISE FOR GC IF YOU WANT FELLOWSHIP, GO FOR J1 (ESP IF YOU ARE IN A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL) PROS: 1. top-notch residents (SCORED SECOND HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY AMONG ALL RESIDENTS IN THE IN-TRAINING EXAM….WOW!!!!!!!.INDIANS AND ACADEMICS AND EXAMS MEAN THE SAME!!!!!!!) 2. friendly faculty 3. great board pass rates (100 % for 3 years) 4. poor fellowship record (esp because desperate IMGs want H1) 5. excellent ancilary staff (no scutwork at all) 6. opportunitieis for clinical research 7. Computerized medial records. 8. All sub-specialty postings and sub-specialty attendings available. CONS: 1. not a great location 2. small program (10 residents) 3. not great fellowship opportunities.''
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| imnotamit Forum Guru
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| | 10/05/06 - 09:37 AM  
 
   
 
|   #10 |
thank u punj and nissan....its a useful info and i hope to use it...i know its a small program but i have heard about the creat camaraderie b/w faculty,residents and house staff...so lets c...GL
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| imnotamit Forum Guru
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| | 10/13/06 - 03:56 PM  
 
   
 
|   #11 |
Hi..I need help regarding travel information to Guthrie...I tried searching for a way via Greyhound but it doesn't show Sayre(Guthrie hospital is in Sayre) as a stop location...I would really appreciate some help..GL..
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| wamba Forum Guru
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| | 10/13/06 - 04:38 PM  
 
   
 
|   #12 |
It is possible to sense that some people here in the forum have problems with the big indian IMGs population in the american match.
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| chemamr Forum Hero

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| | 10/15/06 - 02:06 PM  
 
   
 
|   #13 |
very good Co-Un program, and very IMG friendly, indian or non indian, any IMG is welcome. Very safe small town (sayre, pa). good chances for fellows. imnotamit: ask the PC about directions.
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| chemamr Forum Hero

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| | 10/15/06 - 02:07 PM  
 
   
 
|   #14 |
nice place to live and houses are cheap too
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